Also, black people.

The “West”, Kansas and all those farming states, was actually liberal back in the day. They understood the need for government aid and services. Farmers were still regular people, farming was hard work, you weren’t gonna be rich, and having help if things went badly was important.

Shit, even West Virginia was a reliable Democrat state until the 1990s.

... conservative mass media and politicized religious revivalism has been a fucking plague.

Gotta be careful with liberal = democrat. The democrats absolutely were not the liberals of more modern times a century ago.

I mean, sure, but the Dems have been the (relatively, since standards here are fucked) economically left party since 1896 saw the last of the 'pro-business' hardliners marginalized, and the (again, relatively) socially left party since 1964 saw a definitive break with the Dixiecrats after ~15 years of distancing.

I think it’s worth noting that many farmers THEN were what we would call “self employed” now. Farmers NOW are probably more closely aligned with the Starbucks barista - because they now work for Epstein class. The Man at the bank who owns the loan is no different than the CEO who writes the check. Both the barista and the farmer are being taken advantage of the Epstein class.

Politicians who have a spine now are putting themselves on record if whether they are standing publicly for the people (people living paycheck to paycheck, or season to season) or the financial class - the bankers; the tech-first, human-second Epstein class elite.

I wish I had the courage to speak out like they do…

Yep. They were family farms in the real sense. As self-made as it gets (while acknowledging here that a lot of land was stolen, offered for cheap or free by the government).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_auction_(foreclosure)

The nooses were probably quite off-putting to other kinds of people they might not want bidding too...

While this era overlapped with Jim Crow and the heyday of the KKK, the goal of a penny auction was to enable the original owner/farmer to clear his debts and re-buy/keep his farm. While they wouldn't have wanted any black person bidding either, there wasn't any likelihood of that happening. This was white-on-white threats of violence, against wealthy men greedy for more.

there wasn't any likelihood of that happen

Ironically, from what I've recently heard, Cadillac started selling to black people during the Great Depression. Now, how did black people have money during the Great Depression? Well, it's because they weren't allowed to keep their money in banks, and had it in cash instead.

Kinda like how Jews tended to be bankers and other financial staff, because other religions refused to handle moneylending. Many hypocrites hated the Jew's acquisition of wealth, when said hypocrites refused to do the work.

You not know the history of point of these auctions, they didn't want anyone to bid after the opening bid.

Banks would foreclose on someone's place, and force them to auction off everything that they owned. The community would band together to buy everything back, for as close to a penny per item as possible, then give everything back to the person who the bank took it from.

That wasn't the point at all here.

Sadly in this digital age it’s impossible for a community to band together like this any more

Counterpoint:

Also, I'd like everyone to take a closer look at this image, and decide what you think the demographics are. I see mostly older folks and very few young people showing up. You need to not make excuses, and show up.

Also, I'd like everyone to take a closer look at this image, and decide what you think the demographics are.

People who are not living paycheck-to-paycheck.

Ah, I meant explicitly to force banks to back off from predatory loans.

No Kings is doing fantastic work though, I won’t deny that.

Yeah, a noose wouldn't work today. It'll be an anonymous phone bid that wins, if there is anything unusual happening in person.

Are they? What have they actually achieved other than large gatherings of people?

Well don't you know? If only Russians protested, they would've overthrown Putin already, and the war with Ukraine wouldn't be a thing. That's what USians on Reddit keep saying, so it must be true. Nevermind the Bolotnaya protest, or the endless years-long protesting across the far-east and northern regions, or the 2020-21 protests in Belarus, those don't count. Just need to protest more, pease bro, one more protest, it will solve authoritarianism.

No one can do anything alone.

I see mostly older folks and very few young people showing up.

Could be several reasons for that, but I'm thinking that more than ever, being a responsible, well-educated citizen tends not to be encouraged in school curriculums, and therefore takes years and a certain amount of steadfast, patient work to achieve. Also, life, news and messages are more complicated than ever, which make it all too easy to check out and pursue more pleasant pastimes.

There are other reasons I can think of, but I suspect those are two biggies.

Older people are far more likely to be in stable jobs that allow them to take paid time off, or retired.

Younger people are far more likely to be living paycheck-to-paycheck, unable to afford missing work.

That was going to be my point three, yeah.

Why surrender before you have even tried? Think about what you are accomplishing with your comments before posting because right now all you're doing is demoralizing your own side.

Sorry, I wasn’t being clear. I was talking specifically about controlling an unethical auction by threatening the bankers. Nowadays things are handled more or less digitally so somebody from another location entirely could sweep in and buy the property even if the local community was against it.

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