PrivacyFuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
they literally keep making things better for bots... actions are louder than works
Really disappointed that you just linked to the reddit post instead of copy pasting or at the very least giving a TLDR.
The key points:
If something suggests an account isn’t human, including automation (hi, web agents), we may ask it to confirm there’s a person behind it. This will be rare and will not apply to most users. Accounts that can’t pass may be restricted.
To be clear, this is not sitewide human verification, let alone sitewide ID verification.
Redditors have long been the best bullshit detectors, and increasingly great Turing testers. We’ll make reporting easier and more flexible (these days, we can infer most issues from a report without a lot of context). I’d also like to include comments from other users pointing something out (e.g., “nice post, bot, now fuck off”), since that’s most users’ preferred reporting method.
In the end it also has a (valid) rant against AI generated content posted by humans, but he says they aren't going to block it site wide for now.
In the end there's nothing earth-shattering in there.
Thank you. I stay away from reddit since they pulled the bullshit where it tries to auto-sign you in if you visit the site.
"Please continue to work for free to make me richer."
Redditors have long been the best bullshit detectors, and increasingly great Turing testers.
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Mostly reads as labelling bots. The verify bit doesn't seem to actually say the workflow they'll use, but spew some suggestions of how it could be done.
When confirming that there is a human behind an account, we prefer third-party tools that keep a distance between verification and Reddit itself. Any system we use will not expose your real-world identity to Reddit nor your Reddit username or activity to any third party. There are a handful of ways to do this, and I’m sure there will be more. Each have their tradeoffs:
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Passkeys (which are well supported by Apple, Google, YubiKey, and various password managers) - These are lightweight, require a human to do something, and don’t require your ID. The tradeoff is that there is no proof of individuality or anything other than “a human probably did something.” Nevertheless, it’s a great starting point.
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Third-party biometric services - For example, World ID (yes, the Orb company, though they have non-Orb solutions as well). This technology unlocks proof-of-individual without requiring your name, government ID, or a centralized database. I think the internet needs verification solutions like this, where your account information, usage data, and identity never mix.
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Third-party government ID services - In some countries, such as the UK and Australia, governments require us to use these. These are the least secure, least private, and least preferred. When we are forced to do this, we design the integrations so that we never actually see your ID information, so your Reddit data cannot be tied to you.
Interesting. If you look at their front page, nearly all the posts are by "users" with a 100 thousands posts in 6 days or something absurd and nobody in the comment section ever catches it. A few thousand people talking endearingly to bots.
“Soon we will remove all humans from Reddit” Spez probably
Spez, how about retire, you "self-made" billionaire? Give Reddit to someone else.
Hi everyone, /u/spez here, and meet new CEO of Reddit, Elon Musk!
The Monkey's Paw curls...
Reddit makes money through advertising like most other social media. They might talk a big game of removing bots, but at the end of the day, they want advertisers to think they have as many people as possible engaged on their site.
Unless advertisers start forcing them to prove accounts are real, I have doubts how much Reddit will actually change anything.
And who's going to tell their boss to stop advertising on Reddit, when you're competition is still advertising there?
Advertisers can see if the click trough rate is shit though
What will we do about bots around here once it’s not just, well, the people already here?
Any ideas/suggestions? I fear getting popular will ruin the fediverse due to the moderation demands.
Bots here are useless. There's no money to gain.
But say the fediverse grew to millions or even billions, honestly there's not much that can be done. Telling LLM apart from humans is very difficult nowadays and will be probably impossible in the future. The fediverse would face the same issue as reddit. The only difference is that there could be a different way to sign up and get verified.
That's a bit too naive. Propaganda, marketing for products, fake reviews, referral links (or just links to promote blogs/new sites) all make money indirectly. There absolutely is money to make in any popular social network and due to its architecture fediverse is potentially even more susceptible to it. Without a plan to address it, it is only a matter of time before it becomes an issue (unless it stays a niche small community forever but I am skeptical even those are free from bots and malicious actors)
we could just implement like, Anubis checksum per post. it would cost those llm people hundreds if not thousands.
How would that work for apps using the API?
checksum api that allows the apps to run the checksums ? idk I'm just trying to think of ways to prevent bots if it came to it
Beep boop I'm a bot i think you all pretend to be bots too then no one will want to send bots for advertising
