No, I trust Prof. Hoax

You have missed the joke

!woooosh@lemmy.world

meanwhile mumps complications are way worse

You mean like mild cases of death?

There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead.

Vaccines worked too well and stupid idiots that should be dead are alive.

In Pakistan and Afghanistan CIA used vaccine drives as a cover up to collect information like DNA to look for bin laden. This is why these 2 countries are the only places where polio still exists. This also created mistrusts worldwide as well.

And the most outragious part is, some people raised the concerns in the admin that this would happen, but this was CIA and national security trumps everything sso they went with it anyways.

I wonder if it’s that most of us alive today have very little memory of people who suffered the diseases themselves. Our parents and grandparents knew people who died or had long-term negative effects from measles, polio, smalllpox, etc.

We are insulated from that to the point where some flirt with the idea that maybe the disease isn’t that bad. Combine that with mistrust in the medical system and nobody enjoying getting a needle, and you have some people that WANT vaccines to be a bust to justify avoiding something they don’t want to do.

Have you ever heard about """vaccine hesistancy""" or somesuch from anti-democratic countries like China or Russia? I haven't. The Anti-Vax movement was started to damage democratic countries. Only one of many psyops against the west.

The Conservative Propaganda Machine

It's the confluence of several factor, but essentially, suspicion of the Medical Industrial Complex has been building since the mid 80s. Medical care is so expensive and the MIC so squirrely that it always had people desperately looking for ways around it, which opens the door to con artists. In the mid 90s, discredited now but not at this point in the story British doctor Andrew Wakefield was invested in (and I think part inventor of?) some new vax that targeted one of the components of MMR. In order to market it, he published a paper suggesting (quite softly iirc) that the MMR had some flaws, and advocating for parental choice to vax for each separately.

This is hogwash. The MMR has been safe and in use for something like 100 years (possibly more?). Wakefield was disgraced for this, and when the paper was cherry picked (even after the Lancet retracted it) and misquoted by the then still quite powerful but not yet in their final form anti-vaxxer movement, the disgraced Wakefield had to pivot to a new grift; speaking to Anti vaxxer gatherings, and lending them credibility to those who did not know the story (for which he did have medical license revoked).

So it follows with all of society's issues in the 2020s; Instead of fixing a severe systemic issues, like say, our broken medical system which bankrupts people or kills them because they cant afford life saving medicine, which might involve curtailing the power of capitalists, blame instead pivots to the products instead, which people can understand. They understand their child is dying and they cant afford it, while maybe not questioning why. This opens the door to con men, which starts a cycle, as conmen want to open the door further. The conmen become the power, and then cheating just becomes business, and an army of marks becomes numerous enough that RFK becomes secretary of health, and your mom dies in a hospital hooked up to a ventilator refusing treatment because a conman said a fucking horse dewormer that he owned shares in would protect her.

The internet happened.

Mich like in the opening scene of idiocracy: https://youtu.be/Rp1HUcFvJh4

Perhaps anti vaccination groups are just the natural population control trigger to counterbalance the described effect?

But to me it's extra funny because anti vaccination groups happen to closely align with religion most of the time. And they can't see the benefits of mass vaccination so it must not be real, but in almost the same sentence they want you to believe in sky daddy without being able to see him.

Everyone knows that hope, prayers, and fairy bites are all you need to stay healthy.

It’s only mostly dead.

We don't have the AutoPay results yet. It might not even be death they dies from. Don't jump to conclusions. We need more research and more time. These vaccines have been rushed with not enough testing on the billions of tret subjects.

They never complained

The Latin word for cow is "vacca," which is where the word "vaccine" comes from.

i think sugar cube was the polio vaccine, i believe they use that for polio virus.

Well you know… they could get better. Necromancy is a dying art, but it’s not dead yet.

I'm pretty sure it was a satire post.

The good news is that once you catch it naturally, you can never catch it again! Can a vaccine do that?

My mother has one; a little spot on her arm where her skin just, kind of wrinkles inward a little. It doesn't stand proud like a wound that scabbed over, it's sunken in.

I'm a millennial, I'm not vaccinated against smallpox, it was certified eradicated 5 years before I was born.

I remember reading that some folks (actresses, models) would get vaccinated in less conspicuous places, like the inner thigh, but now I can't find any documentation for it.

Had my vaccine titers drawn for a job and my mmr levels were just a smidge low, so got a booster in my 30's. Glad I did with all the recent uptick in cases

Stop dropping your phone on the fucking train

Every morning I clock into work, and 12 hours later I clock out covered in jizz because someone dropped their phone while looking at porn and turned the whole trip into a goddamn gangbang. I can’t take it anymore. I’m literally knee deep in spunk by the end of the day, because all you motherfuckers are apparently lubing up your hands and can’t get a grip. We’ve all had to start wearing blindfolds when we exit the front so we don’t accidentally get a peak and start furiously cranking our cocks to “thugposts” or “femboys” or whatever the newest horny fad is.

For the love of god, stop dropping your phone on the fucking train.

i have shingle scars, but its not atrophied like most people who get shingles, since zoster damages the tissue causing the atrophy, it somewhat hypertrophic. primary varicella scars seems less likely than shingle scars which causes significantly more damage to the skin.

I don’t know if I have any physical scars from chickenpox, but the misery of having it is one of my earliest memories.

I recall sitting in the bathroom, everything was itching and painful, the light was off, but what little light there was bored into my head. My mother took a photo of me, with the camera flash on. She was laughing, while also crooning over me.

I didn’t know that there even was a vaccine for chickenpox until I was in my 20s. I was so little, who in their right mind is okay with their child going through that? My mother is an anti-vaxxer and honestly I loathe her for that.

I have one on my nose! The horror!

Isn't that ye olde smallpox jab?

You have the government tracking version. No 5g for you, just constant surveillance.

Speaking of, sitting on the toilet for so long can cause hemorrhoids. You should probably finish surfing lemmy and move, go for a walk like to the store you love nearby. I’m only guess, of course, not tracking you at all…

Fascism is an international movement. Corporations have always favoured fascism because of the potential for insane short term profit and almost complete capture of the state. Now that corporations are in control of all of the average persons communications, they're easy prey for disinformation and propaganda.

You are not wrong, but I also want to say that the antivax movement started in the UK with Andrew Wakefield. Then US made it way more widespread.

I hate that I didn't immediately spot this as satire. It wasn't until I reread it and digested "mild cases of death" that I realized it wasn't some antivax nonsense. ☹️