I mean, herbert intended spice to be a metaphor for oil and the fremen are arab/muslim-coded for a reason. It's just that thisbsame conflict has been going on a long time.

This isn't life imitating art. It's art imitating life.

It's just that this story in real life has been going on for a long time, since well before the first Dune books were written.

It's like when people say it's crazy how "Andor predicted this". Like no dawg, this has happened before.

fair

While there are a lot of parallels to conflicts in the middle east, Dune was largely inspired by the Russian empire's war against the people of the Caucuses that were united by Imam Shamyl in the 1800s. The book The Sabres of Paradise details Shamyl's life and the conflict and much of the Fremen culture is basically lifted wholesale from it.

It's what makes Iran so hard to invade. When people say "geography", they mean giant worms that sense vibration.

Important note, I feel. In the book it's jihad, in the movies it's holy war. Presumably because America has been so openly Islamophobic the last twenty plus years, that I imagine the audience would have perceived racism, when, in fact, the 1965 text says jihad. Just like to point that out as an interesting historical and cultural note. (Side note, haven't seen the latest, but I remember at least the first one saying holy war and never jihad.)

I was thinking it was because of reactionaries who would freak out about the "good guy" leading a "jihad".

The final script for Dune: Part Two also never used the word "jihad".

And for anyone curious, "jihad" literally means an exertion, an effort, or a struggle. The sense of righteousness is implied with context.

Yeah, and then it morphs into a horrific regime led by a human-alien hybrid that things the only way forward is cruelty,

Assuming Herbert is truthful then the alternative was even greater cruelty and I think even extinction

That's what they always say.

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