Unfortunately it has a use. Microsoft discontinued WordPad

Both classic Notepad and classic WordPad can be downloaded and installed from third-party sites.

However, to thoroughly neuter the enshittified versions and ensure the classic versions are used in all workflows can take a bit more than what the installers recommend. Primarily, I would recommend adding the *.bak extension to the enshittified versions then make (IIRC) junction links from the classic ones to where the enshittified ones are sitting. This ensures that if anything reaches for the enshittified ones, the junction links are there to redirect the action to the classic versions.

I was devasted when I heard this

Both classic Notepad and classic WordPad can be downloaded and installed from third-party sites.

However, to thoroughly neuter the enshittified versions and ensure the classic versions are used in all workflows can take a bit more than what the installers recommend. Primarily, I would recommend adding the *.bak extension to the enshittified versions then make (IIRC) junction links from the classic ones to where the enshittified ones are sitting. This ensures that if anything reaches for the enshittified ones, the junction links are there to redirect the action to the classic versions.

They updated the screenshot tool. Now its like paint.

so it's minime word now?

Its really a shame. Every OS needs a simple text editor, possibly without formatting support of any kind. You're not supposed to use it, it just makes it possible to edit basic configurations on the fly and things like that. Instead they support half of word pad and cram in copilot for some reason.
Although I do admit, I haven't seen the need to move away from kwrite for a long time. Basic text editor that does what it should and does it right!

Then just types into and don’t do any formatting. I use it daily at work for pasting text I want to keep. That’s it I type or paste I never save, I never click any menus etc.

Tabs were a welcome addition, but that's where the good idea train swiftly leaves the rails.

What we needed was a built-in hex editor, and maybe some better tools for working with unicode that you can't just type in on whatever keyboard you have.

Instead, they turned it into WordPad, which we already have.

Its not even wordpad. It only supports markdown not rtf... it only exists so they could easily shove copilot into it.

True, but IMO it makes a lot more sense to support markdown under Wordpad than Notepad since the controls and doc-style layout/rendering support is already there.

it only exists so they could easily shove copilot into it.

hex

Does windows power toys have one?

No idea. I want to say 'yes', but the last time I installed Power Toys was under Win2k.

I understand Notepad++ is pretty cool?

Yes, it’s not made by Microsoft.

I wish they'd release a version for Linux so I could experience the "pretty cool"ness for myself :)

There's notepadqq which appears to be a clone of notepad++, but it's not maintained anymore.

Geany is pretty similar.

It probably runs on Wine/Proton.

I use Neovim (and Kate sometimes)

I use Helix.

If you use the formatting bar to format text, it unlocks the View→Markdown menu which has two options - Markdown or Syntax. This allows you to toggle seeing the source or formatted markdown.

If you do not use the formatting bar to format text, markdown is not enabled. I manually typed in text in markdown format and the menu didn't un-grey.

You can go into the app settings and turn off formatting, which will hide the formatting toolbar.

I think you really have to work hard to be offended by this.

Additionally, for those Notepad Purists™ who are offended by any features being added… Tabs are handy. And having it auto-save drafts and auto-open them is also handy - for me. Maybe you don't like that, but you can disable the auto-save in settings. Can't turn off tabs, but you can set it to open in new windows, so pretty close to disabling that.

If this is what drives you over the edge to use Linux........ okay, bud, have it your way - and I'm a Linux enthusiast, so I'm all for it. But being pissed off by something you have to specifically enable seems a bit silly to me. It's the hallmark of fascism - "Other people have the right to exist! FUCK THAT!" - a little hyperbolic, but the principle is vaguely the same. :P (And what's the internet without hyperbole? :) )

Markdown support is actual nice and useful.

This, but he's yelling "plain text" instead of drainage.

Not embracing every bullshit data mining change tech companies shove down our throats is fascism, got it. An intelligent, well reasoned, not at all fucked up thing to say

Yes, you have accurately characterized what I said and didn't miss any of it in the slightest. Well done, you. Congrats on not completely missing the entire point. I am honestly impressed by the complete lack of comprehension. Nicely done.

Oh god, nobody look at org-mode 😳

Notepad went from simple to having an identity crisis.

I hate this person. It makes me want to scream. One of the dumbest stupidest things about Windows is a fucking useless programs go on with it that haven't been updated in 20 years. Please update them. You want to update notepad? Go look at Notepad+. Please please please update all the shitty little programs that exist around Windows that no one uses cause they're so goddamn shitty.

Holy fuck update Windows programs. For the love of God update ALL the Windows programs. Make the goddamn search tool work. Make the goddamn voice to text work. Make the image viewer not suck. Please don't listen to the people who are resistant to change. Leave an old shitty version on there just for them, but please please make Windows programs better because they suck right now!!

What a bad take. Notepad was never meant to have formatting, as the post states. Notepad's purpose was to open war text files as raw text. For formatted text, there was WordPad. What made notepad great is that it was the fastest and easiest way to just know what is in the damn file.

Yes! Leave notepad alone. I don't need to load fucking Word when I just want to quickly type out some bullshit that I'm going to reference a few minutes later and then not bother to save. Notepad has always been the fastest, most responsive and reliable tool in windows that I (and probably a lot of people) use every fucking day.

So this is like Kate but for plebs?

I’ve totally fallen for markdown. I want more normies to know about it.

All the nice things about rich text with none of the Word.

Sad RTF noises.

The Notepad getting junk added is a Microsoft Store app. The old notepad.exe is still usable.

And as for all things Windows 11 a tutorial is needed to painstakingly wade through every inch of bullshit.

Huh. That write up seems pretty useful. It's so weird that the redesigned app is just an alias to the old and untouched app that's still sitting in system32

Same way the rest of the OS is built.

All those fucked up snapins and apps and pretty pretty nonfunctional interfaces (try changing an ip) are utterly negated by start-run-"control"

Not all of them anymore. Some control panel icons just throw you into the new settings app.

Whomever was involved with the creation of the "new" printer settings menu should be killed by dumping a whole nest of fire ants high on bath salts into their rectum and then stapling it shut.

Probably as usual: Legacy reasons.

Well, as far as you consider the bugs usable.

Notepad's sole purpose is to remove formatting from copied text.

You can use Neovim (or any CLI text editor) for that

ctrl+shift+v is your friend

that doesn't usually work when copying between different Microsoft products. it always fucks it up somehow or simply doesn't let you

Not always (looking angrily at you Outlook, meanwhile your brother Excel excels (ha!) at doing this while inputting data).

Fuck excel. The default should be to leave whatever the fuck I paste in there alone. If I want you to reformat shit I'll tell you to reformat it.

??
Everytime I paste something it there, the formatting (for better or for worse) stays on whatever the source was.

But at least you can use the CTRL + Shift + V to paste it unformatted (Unlike Outlook)

Try doing upc codes and see how you feel about it.

Oh yeah...Data type pasting is...Interesting :p

Doesn't work everywhere...

Unsurprisingly Microsoft products are the least consistent with it

That command gives me a bunch of more hoops to jump through

Org Mode shall set you free

Sublime ftw

Isn't notepad an LLM client now?

Waiting for the rename to copad AI.

CopePad

See Copilot logo in top right

Feels like everything is. Might as well describe every app by it‘s (now) secondary function.

Some apps just have it as primary function now...

So… they removed Wordpad to push people into using Word… and now they removed Notepad to push people into… this monstrosity? Why does Notepad support hyperlinks now?

Back when I used Notepad, it was to strip out rich text formatting and reliably get consistently distinct text, especially if I configured it to use a monospace font. Now I have to worry about embedded hyperlinks sending me to God-knows-where?

If you are stuck in Windows, use Notepad++.

I always thought the default font used by notepad, courier, is monospace. But I mostly stopped using windows years ago so maybe that changed

Control + Shift + V pastes as plain text.

*sometimes

notepad has formatting now? o_O

does it produce markdown or something?

If you use the formatting bar to format text, it unlocks the View→Markdown menu which has two options - Markdown or Syntax. This allows you to toggle seeing the source or formatted markdown.

If you do not use the formatting bar to format text, markdown is not enabled. I manually typed in text in markdown format and the menu didn't un-grey.

You can go into the app settings and turn off formatting, which will hide the formatting toolbar.

I think you really have to work hard to be offended by this.

Yep it’s markdown, and yep they had a CVE with second highest grade cause of it

https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2026-20841

Neat

heh, ofc. Apparently something to do with file:// and such uri handling, apparently executing local files? Yikes.

not just local files

if you click a link to file:///123.45.67.89:69420/files-download/virus.exe it will download and run virus.exe from that IP address

it still works, but now there is a "Dangerous Link Location: This is not a web link and may lead to the execution of malicious code" warning, but previously it would silently run the file.

Aren't CVE grades meaningless anyway with how they are declared in real world?

It's a UWP (i think? they renamed the platform twice already) vibecoded app now, notepad.exe still around.

Notepad++ gang, rise, claim your kingdom.

Kate FTW!

Well it's a 23y old application that had one issue where the dev's machine got infected, and it was handled ~instantly.

What's the actual problem here?

This isn't the first time that application has had problems either, the CIA hacked it because it was loading unsigned DLLs: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v733-fix-cia-hacking-npp-issue/

To be fair it's one of the most popular text editors so it's not surprising nation states would target them, and it's hard to block someone with those kinds of resources.

Instantly? The article says “lasted for almost half a year”

We're talking geologic timescales here. Did you miss the memo?

Didn't it got patched?

Metapad still strong.

This was my first thought. I hadn't bothered installing it in a while, then one day that fucking copilot icon appeared, and back I went. There's something to be said for a tool that does the thing it needs to do well and only that.

I really hope that's sarcasm considering latest news xd

But disable automatic updates...

No? That's already been long-fixed?

I'm talking about this incident, fixed in February 2026

Probably prudent anyways. What agent they broken recently?

https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/hijacked-incident-info-update/

I mean you're right, but also look at what emacs or vim are doing on the linux side. Overloading your notepad application is hardly a concept birthed on Windows.

Vim has kept to simple sanity.

We don't talk about LazyVim.

Edit: I heard Emacs might be getting a text editor added soon.

I'm not so sure about that. Vim has syntax highlighting, programming language support (assisted via ctags), two terminal emulators, a window manager, two (arguably three) programming languages, transparent remote file editing...

So anyway, I use an editor that doesn't waste my time: Ed, man! !man ed.

Makes perfect sense. It is the standard editor.

I'd argue the Linux equivalent is more something like nano, and I wouldn't say nano is overloaded

Are you saying that extensibility is the same thing as bloat? Weird take if so.

You have a virus there.

Slopilot?

the point and strength of notepad was that it opened immediately, no bullshit, you can write text and that's all.

I suspect that's not the case anymore.

Nope, now (by default) it opens all the files you had open the last time you used Notepad. You can turn it off, but it's annoying.

Notepad, the app I literally only ever use accidentally, or to edit a PC's hosts file.. Ah yes, this definitely needs CoPilot and markdown formatting.

All it needed was a dark mode to match modern Windows light/dark theming, done.

The additional shit (markdown, CoPilot?!) is just noise, intrusions, and vulnerabilities.

My week as a windows forced office worker just peaked having seen this meme.

Unironically the last straw in getting me to switch to Linux. Then a week later was the copilot vulnerability news

@RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip @programmer_humor@programming.dev

Wasn't there a lurking edit.exe or edit.cmd somewhere inside C:\WINDOWS\system32? Would make an interesting replacement to the enshittified "Not-e-pad". But, then, I haven't used Windows since Windows 10 was still a novelty (and what definitely pushed me to Linux... Arch Linux btw), so maybe I'm very old ("I'm old, Dean, very old") to recall of a MS-DOS relic.

Yes, DOS had edit.com, all the BASIC stuff I learned was done in it

Wasn't there a version of ed in DOS at one point? Or am I mis remembering?

That could still lurk somewhere in windows' maze of directories somewhere...

@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world @programmer_humor@programming.dev

Good question. I'm not sure. I guess no, because, as far as I know, ed is a GNU editor which allows for composing and editing files in a REPL-like environment (whose specific commands, apart from "q" to quit, I'm yet to learn)

The "edit" I'm referring to was a spiritual antecessor or cousin of vim, emacs and nano. It was a TUI, full with a functional menubar accessible through keyboard arrow keys. I remember it having a blue background with gray/white text.

I remember with quite a certainty it was a thing for Windows XP. Was invokeable by using "edit filename.txt" in cmd.

However, I also remember having manually copied some executables across diferent Windows versions in order to test and see whether these old executables would work. I remember having successfully ran Windows XP's calc.exe in some later Windows version, relying on the compatibility layer ("ntvdm", I guess?). I remember doing the same for 16-bit, MS-DOS programs, but I don't remember whether "edit" MS-DOS programs was included in post-XP Windows versions, or if I manually copied it from XP.

Maybe it's edit I'm remembering. It was a long time ago, and I stopped using windows seriously around 3.11, so I never paid much attention to what was on that partition. It was only there to run steam (and a few other games).

I suppose I should have switched to a console, but it never even occurred to me at the time.

A 64-bit version of edit seems to be in the works. You can cli install it for now, but MS is promising to include it eventually.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/edit/

This is a bad rant. Nvim has markdown format rendering too, does that make it worse? I’d say the markdown rendering was a good update, because now my tech illiterate coworkers can open the .md files I sprinkle everywhere and see them as their meant.

No, the true madness is the advent of tabs that stay open until explicitly closed, even if the program is terminated, and come back when you open the app from scratch.

At least Nvim allows me to turn that shit off, select a plugin that matches my preferences, or program a keyboard shortcut to toggle rendering on and off. The MS Editor just unilaterally decides that your file should now end in .md, because it contains what MS considers markdown formatting, as if there's no way a plain text file could contain lines beginning with # (although, granted, you have to press one of the formatting buttons first, before the editor switches to "markdown mode" and starts behaving that way).

I still remember WordPad. It was Sooo fancy.

Notepad is still fine. You can disable markdown and the AI stuff.

I use Macs at home, but use Windows 11 at work. I actually use a combination of Notepad and Sticky Notes daily (well, not on the weekends). It’s fine.

One thing I want it to do is stop telling me a file is not saved if I change something and then change it back. The unsaved indicator (the dot) annoys me.

None of what you describe here is fine.

microsoft write.exe or nothing

Ed is the standard text editor.

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