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World NewsThe head of Iran’s parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy said that by providing drone support to Israel, Ukraine has “effectively become involved in the war.”
Zelenskyy earlier stated that Kyiv has already deployed interceptor drones and a team of specialists to help protect US military bases in Jordan.
Um, they've been for the past few years. Fuck's sake Im having a hard time figuring out who the dumbest assholes in this war are.
Some competitions end in draws.
10+ years of war here we go...
I don't think the US is gonna last that long
Hmmm, I wonder how Ukraine ever managed to become so proficient in shooting down Iranian drones, years before anyone else?
Ukraine is sending soldiers with their drones.
probably the whole photoshop brigade
Ukraine is sending neither drones nor soldiers inside of Iran.
Thousands of Iranian drones have landed into Ukrainian soil, though.
Also are you telling me the Iranians sent the drones to Russia and just sent them flight instructions printed on an A4 paper instead of Iranian instructors...?
Ukrainian soldiers are operating the drones to defend the genocidal ethnostate and the US bases bombing Iran. This is not giving instructions, this is participation in the war.
Ironically Ukraine is sending soldiers and interceptors from their own frontlines. Guess they don't need them more than Netanyahu.
Iranian soldiers operated the drones sent by a demand of a genocidal ethnostate to bomb Ukraine. This is not giving instructions, this is participation in the war.
Now, because of involvement of these chaps, Ukraine has a technology that is in high demand in the world, for whatever reason. It's very single cellular to assume that the technology is not scalable, and that literally every person who can be involved in scaling of a technology must be digging trench somewhere in Donetsk.
Zelensky supports nazis and child fukers and child killers. Means in retrograde it was a right choice by Iran
So I guess genocide is ok? Wow that down, you pedigree chum.
ethnostate
Zelensky is a zionist
Talking about a genocidal ethnostate is pretty rich in a thread defending Israel and its allies
Israel and USA can go and fuck themselves with a bomb shaped dildo for all I care.
But it's they are not the only one committing genocide, and your mates from around here are making it very weird turning people suffering into genocide Olympics.
Israel and USA can go and fuck themselves with a bomb shaped dildo for all I care.
Okay, so we can agree that Israel and the US are evil.
So. What does it say about Ukraine that they are on the same side?
Russia is not a genocidal ethnostate. Go look at the percentage of civilian casualties in the Ukraine war and the percentage in Gaza and then learn what terms mean. Russia does commit "war crimes" (whatever that word means nowadays) but they are most certainly not committing genocide.
Well they have been force-adopting ukranian chilfren into Russia, no? I am sure i read something about that. Not as cruel but still genocide i guess?
Not really, that was a hoax, Russia asked Ukraine for list of names, Ukraine provided 339 names of which 166 was immediately found living with their parents in Germany. And even if we assume all the rest are really unaccounted for, this only points how low civilian losses are in that war, something unthinkable looking at American or Israeli wars.
Funny that you think the Ukrainian startup model is scalable. Neither is the USonian drone program. Iran could kill every US soldier allegedly being deployed with a single drone each and it wouldn't even cut into their stockpile.
Don't ask how Iranian soldiers died in Ukraine in 2022 during a drone strike on a Russian position launching Shaheds
You're sourcing Ukrainian security officials speaking to the Jerusalem Post and KAN. Besides the fact that this information is unverifiable, you're reinforcing Iranian media's point here.
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start proxy war by overthrowing a nation's government with Nazis
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spread disinformation to bilk people on donations and investments
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things don't go particularly well
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demanding surrender from the country winning the war fails because you accidentally beat the liberalism out of their liberals
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gamble away, with your losses taken by credulous rubes
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region is economically devastated, depopulated, Russia has one less developing country to trade with Chinese-style
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bask in the glory of being on top
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start losing a new war
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remove sanctions on Russia to weather the storm
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[the wild and mysterious future, who can guess?]
- 2007: Ukraine join the sanctions on Iran because of the peaceful nuclear program along the west that never stopped
- Russia attacks Ukraine
- Russia needs support
- Iran who was forced into Russia arms by the EU idiots accept
- Russia starts using Iranian drones
- Ukraine gets good at destroying Iranian drones
- PedOTUS picks a fight with Iranians
- Iranians launch drone strike at half-assed US base
- PedOTUS asks Ukraine for support fighting drones
- Ukraine agrees and meet the traitor son of the Shah the butcher who is going to be as bad as the regime
- Iranians decide that makes Ukraine a valid target
ANDDD..
Iranian drones blowing-up Ukraina didn't make Ukraina designate Iran as a legitimate war-target??
Iran ought now be a legit Ukrainian target, if that's Iran's position.
Ukraina's selling defensive drones, not assault ones, from what I've been seeing.
This is mere ideological-convenience/gaslighting, not accuracy-of-view.
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Ukraine joined the sanctions on Iran in 2007 for the civilian nuclear program . Sanctions indirectly kill people. Zelensky want to save isrsel and the usa who do not only want to end the ergime but also commit gaza line genocide
Ukraine would be quite happy is other countries just got off it's land!
Zelensky fan who is somehow unaware he has been begging to make himself useful to Israel in this war is a funny concept
Lol tankies out in force downvoting anyone pointing out how Iran has been at war with Ukraine since 2022.
Its hard to start a war you already started. The US may have started a war with Iran. Ukraine though has been at war with Iran since the Iranians started armed hostilities in 2022. And yes Iran had troops in Ukraine since at least 2022.
Why are you complaining about communists on a community known to have a lot of communists? Secondly, Ukraine sanctioned Iran and has been assisting with western attempts to strangle Iran for decades.
Ukraine started the hostilities in 2007. Ukraine joined the sanctions on Iran in for the civilian nuclear program . Sanctions indirectly kill people
They restricted nuclear technologies exports in 2007. A bit different than helping repeatedly bomb housing and hospitals
Ukraine has a civilian nuclear program; why can't Iran have one? The sanctions also include the missile program, which denies Iran the right to improve its army for defense and restricts dual-use materials, affecting civilian projects as well. Trading with Israel also helps Israel kill people throughout the region.
Furthermore, without the West making itself the enemy of Iran, Russia would never have acquired Shahed technology. By continuing to be stubborn, the West ensures Iran will get even closer to Russia, not the opposite.
What I am advocating for is the renormalization of relations with Iran to limit Russian power; what you are suggesting is vengeance that will only hurt Ukraine, not Russia. With a vengeance mentality, one could justify First Nations in Canada helping to murder the descendants of settlers, or Africa assisting in the murder of civilians from former colonial powers.
Oh, I bet it will go swimmingly for Iran to attack Ukraine. Don't they have all their oil infrastructure concentrated on one island? Ukraine has been very effective in hitting Russian oil facilities.
Also, if anything, Iran has been involved in Russia's unjustified invasion into Ukraine, by giving Russia access to the Shahed drones to support the mentioned invasion.
Ukraine joined the sanctions on Iran in 2007 for the civilian nuclear program . Sanctions indirectly kill people.
So sanctions warrant military strikes? Someone better let the UN know.
Sanctions are siege warfare.
Sanctions makes regular iranian suffer. To minimize the suffer Iran has to find allies. Iran was forced into russian and chinese arms it is a fact. Do you also think all those countries who protected Israel occupation for 7 decades make them legimate target to palestinians or ukrainian forces who participated in Iraq in 2003-2005 makes Ukraine a valid target to Iraqis . Chinese arms are also used by russia, will you support a war with China?
The bigger winner of this war is china and the russian invaders not Ukraine. The day the west promise removing all sanctions on Iran in exchange of stopping the support for Russia and I would agree with you
The UN is useless and many countries who designed it was still colonial powers killing people in occupied lands
I didn't say that Ukraine would be a winner of this war, all I said was that if Iran were to attack Ukraine, Ukraine could replicate on iranian oil infrastructure what they are doing with russian oil infrastructure.
I really don't believe Iran will strike in ukranians territories but it's asset in the middle east region.
Ukraine will not benefits at all from helping israel, the usa and the golf. The real winners is the russian invaders and China and Israel if Iran is destroyed and genocided.
Russia no longer need the shahed too. They got the tech and have their own drones based on the shahed blueprint
Ukraine is benefitting by selling their drone interceptors and training. It's their best avenue to secure funding for their defense against the ongoing invasion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ukraine has no choice but to side with the US, lest they get cut off from weapon imports and intelligence. If Europe wants Ukraine to not side with the US, they need to do more to support Ukraine. But we all know that Europe won't meaningfully step up its support of Ukraine, so the only pathway left to Ukraine is to sell its interceptor tech to the orange in chief and the oil oligarchies.
The usa moved air defenses from ukraine and south korea to protect Israel and trump ease up the sanctions on Russia. Even an idiot like Trump know the son of the shah who loves seeing his people bombed by israel and the usa is unpopular yet zelensky meet him. Nothing of what Zelensky is doing make sny sense when Russia is not beaten yet and need all the defense systems he has
Why do you think the US carefully avoided the oil infrastructure when bombing that island? You read the news or just comment on it?
Because they want to take over the island? Or because they still want to have something to threaten Iran with?
It's because Iran can destroy the rest of the region's oil infrastructure with its missiles, and has refrained from doing so. US is unable to go tit-for-tat on this because Iran would easily weather a global economic crash, since they are already as sanctioned as possible. This is why I was deeply mistaken about the escalation ladder in this war, I made assumptions like "US will see this is irrational" (LMAO) and "US willl have to use nukes or lose"—Iran has pseudo-M.A.D.
Lol we found the line beyond which liberals side with the fascist kid-bombers, and that line is being against their favorite reddit nazi country
Excuse me, who are you talking about? I was talking about Iran threatening Ukraine.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230825-utkin-the-nazi-tattooed-commander-who-gave-wagner-its-name
Nice thought terminating sequence, I guess now you don't have to address supporting a country which has AN OFFICIAL BATTALLION made entirely of nazis and national holidays, statues, and streets named for a ridiculous amount of nazis
No, there is not an entire nazi battalion. There was a civil defense force where nazis dominated, but when that defense force got rolled into the army, the percentage of nazis in that battalion dropped significantly. And Ukraine is in no position to refuse able-bodied recruits, so they get to stay. Overall Ukraine only has a hand-full of nazis, no more than the average western country.
no more than the average western country.
Probably true
"Oh but Russia has fascist mercenaries" that's cool man, let me know when they're running the government instead of being used as cannon fodder
The Ukrainian government is run by a jewish person. Utkin and Prigozhin were personal acquaintances of Putin
Amerikkka had a black president
A Jewish nazi, yes. There's plenty of those in Israel, the country Zelensky has repeatedly said he wants to emulate.
Every now and then there's a burst of terminally unhinged noise. Its a bit like sighting a pulsar.
No, they have massive storage in one ityy bitty island that could very easily be turned into a huge ecological disaster
Iran has been planning this war for decades... They'd have to be total fools to think it wouldn't be a target. And if you know where the enemy will strike and all that
Well, for one, Russia also had years, and did in fact take years, to plan the invasion in Ukraine. That didn't turn out too great. And secondly, no matter how good your plan is, if all of your oil export infrastructure is that concentrated, it is at risk.
Is it as concentrated as it appears? It's basic art of war stuff, appear weak where you are strong and strong where you're weak
The island is basically a bomb. It's an enormous oil depot, with millions of barrels, not processing. It would hurt Iranian exports for sure, but if they're not idiots they'd have contingencies so they could spend the island strategically
Russia failed because they mistook a hard target for a soft one and let their military be rotted by corruption... Their plan looked fine on paper
"Russia failed by winning the war too slowly"
- people succeeding by losing wars
It all makes sense...
Almost like you guys completely fail to understand that it is indeed possible to lose by "winning too slowly". War is expensive and the longer it goes on the more it is crippling Russia's economy.
If you are paying attention to this war as we enter its 5th year, Russia's front line isn't doing too well at the minute, especially so since Russia's starlink access and messaging services have been cut off. Russia is currently moving troops around to try and plug holes in their leaky front line.
Almost like you guys need to start engaging with reality
Russian economy is booming according to the World Bank which reclassified Russia as a high income country https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/opendata/world-bank-country-classifications-by-income-level-for-2024-2025
Meanwhile, the IMF forecasts that Russian economy is set to grow faster than all the western economies https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/russia-forecast-to-grow-faster-than-advanced-economies-in-2024-imf.html
It's almost like you don't understand that the western fascists lost the war of attrition against Russia.
Dude, both of those articles you linked are 2 years old now. 2 years might as well be 2 decades in terms of how quickly things change when a country is at war. You are seriously trying to sell me an article about Russia's GDP growth in 2024 in 2026. You need to refresh your propaganda home screen comrade.
I love your definitive statement at the end to wrap it all up. It's like you've been in a coma for the last 2 years.
It's almost like you don't understand that the western fascists lost the war of attrition against Russia.
Cute...
Now let's talk about Russia's current leaky front line that is happening right now in 2026. Or how about how Ukraine seems to be taking out an air defense system every day now. It's starting to look really bad for Russia out there, beginning of the end hopefully.
Are you stupid? Russia lost because they kicked a snowball that turned out to be a rock.
Russia failed because they mistook a hard target for a soft one and let their military be rotted by corruption... Their plan looked fine on paper
I don't know what the fuck you read, but it wasn't my post
Right, like you said, Russia lost by winning too slowly. Maybe Ukraine can still win by surrendering quickly. It's all coming together baby!!!
You must struggle a lot in life, so let's just say you won this one. Good job, sport
