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Ye Power Trippin' BastardsChecked my notifications to see this, I'm not even active in those communities.
The reason says ' Piefed Troll ' I'm not sure what that could be?
Can someone help me figure out why I was banned? I wasn't very active in the last week I can't imagine why I'd be banned, especially from these communities.
Message from Draconic: I messaged the mod and clarified that ban was a mistake and will be removed. I'm locking the post because it's attracting a lot of trolls.
I would like to point out that the troll accounts being made to spam Draconic's name, especially after banning someone, is probably part of the reason why moderation is strict.
Draconic in the last month has had several users mass harass them, for either not supporting Israel or saying they don't mind what users do on their private computers.
Users should still be allowed to block communities after being banned from them.
This is why moderation is needed. Be normal.
Anything's possible when you make shit up
Yeah because you're a rational and non fascist observer, "FreeIsrael"
Anti-zionist jewish groups all over the world condemn Israel, principled young people in Israel are behind bars for refusing to serve in the IDF because they know that what Israel is doing is evil. You don't actually give a shit about jewish people, you just want to use them to justify a genocide.
You're losing and you know it, your shithole ethnostate is living on borrowed time
yawn
I'm clearly talking about your flippant accusations of pedophilia, and nobody with half a brain is buying accusations of antisemitism from an account with "FreeIsrael" in the name especially without receipts
I am 100% pro-hamas, if you don't want your worthless settler ass to get blown up then move back to brooklyn or wherever
So you're too fucking cowardly to actually fight for "your country" lol, fyi being stateside won't save you
Seems that a few people are getting banned for "random" reasons.
(Looking at ban reasons and their posts from the same time I suspect it's all because they criticised AI lmao)
https://lemmy.zip/modlog/4125
https://lemmy.zip/modlog/747138
etc
Seems you got banned for your post "I searched CachyOS vs Fedora on YouTube and all I found was AI Slop 🙄"
PTB 100%
It is interesting to me that the modlog doesn't show who did action. Is that normal? I would have expected to see who the moderator was that performed the mod action, but honestly haven't been involved with moderating a website in basically 15 years, so I don't know what the accepted norms are these days...
I think there are mobile apps that show it (pretty sure a thread here from a few days ago had a screenshot showing as much).
can confirm, i & a few other users got comments removed & banned from some communities for talking about how to spot genAI images etc
most of the people in question were slrpnk.net users, so it makes sense why we'd be against something that's so electricity- and water-hungry while providing very little of use (meanwhile i'm fine with locally-hosted analytical AI that's doing stuff like analysing scans for cancer, for example)
but weirdly, the bans all got labelled as stuff like "anti-AI neoliberal", even though neoliberals are totally fine with corporate-owned genAI being added needlessly to every service 🤷
dbzer0 users call anyone who disagrees with them a liberal no matter what the issue is, because they're the followers of the One True Socialism
Isn't the db0 instance anarchist not socialist?
You're a fucking zionist, your opinions on what is or isn't fascism are completely worthless
Countless anti-zionist jews both in Israel and around the world stand as living proof that you are a lying sack of shit, their bravery and selflessness make it impossible for cowardly scum like yourself to tie zionism to jewish identity. You're losing and you know it.
anarchism is also called libertarian socialism
And there's no such thing as an anarchocapitalist because it's an innate oxymoron.
I don't think you replied to the right comment
I don't think you understand yes and
LMAO are you 12? You sure sound like it.
Guess we found the person making all the Draconic_NEO impersonation accounts.
You seem totally unhinged. Get help.
Thanks for proving you don't know what you're talking about, I mean, we already knew, but the warm fuzzy feeling of being indisputably right is always nice
You don't understand anarchism, not a shock either.
PTB. There have been some mods of the AI specific comms here on db0 that are more than a little ban happy, and who pre-emptively ban people for participating in anti-ai subs.
That said, we also have a number of users that have come to this sub to whine when they refuse to block the AI subs for themselves and just downvote everything from them.
There's a huge amount of Brigadoon related to AI content. People downvote and stalk the communities instead of just blocking them. I think the heavy handedness is justified, and I've even been on the wrong side of it (getting banned for posting in fuck AI).
I don't know why the autocorrect gave me that but I'm keeping it.
Here on MULTIVERSE we ban AI communities because we're a vegan instance, but I can understand someone feeling an ethical obligation to take a more active role in downvoting AI.
we ban AI communities because we’re a vegan instance
Is there some sort of natural enmity between vegans and AI enthusiasts I'm not aware of?
I think it's something along the lines of:
A lot of vegans are vegan for ethical reasons, i.e. animal products are cruel to animals and tend to harm the environment. So it makes sense they'd be against something so power-hungry which is also destroying the environment so we can have arrangements of pixels that look pretty I guess.
Sounds plausible, I suppose.
no. it's nonsense.
Would you ban a user who felt an obligation to take a more active role in downvoting vegan content?
Obviously, the losers against this would be highly transphobic and homophobic. It must be rough having to create an other handful of alts each time you want your "contributions" to have any upvotes.
Nothing wrong with a guy dressing like a girl, you loser. I know it confuses you when you get a boner but boys in skirts are actually a really cool and fun thing. This isn't the platform for your puritanical insecurities.
You're definitely a pedophile
Welcome to the fediverse
Instead of one u/spez, we have several dozen mini spez here. Many instance owners will instance ban users just for one comment where you forget or don’t want to place an /s after your comment.
Many of these people are young, inexperienced and have therefore no true insight in the power they wield, not of the consequences this type of behaviour has on the overall success chances of a platform that struggles to get 6 digit monthly active users.
But the most interesting part of this is that these type of comments/ criticisms are downvoted by an army of users who apparently don’t mind totalitarianism in a digital space.
But the most interesting part of this is that these type of comments/ criticisms are downvoted by an army of users who apparently don’t mind totalitarianism in a digital space.
I feel that's a bit much. If you feel like you got banned and silenced, nothing stops you from:
- Not interacting with them
- Not being on their instance
- Blocking the mods/admins
- Spinning up your own instance with better rules
Mods can be weird, but it's not totalitarianism. The term uses to describe Hitler and Stalin isn't when you get a comment removed on the internet. Unless you're terminally online and think your comment removed on a niche internet forum is on par with the SS bursting into your home on suspicion that you're Jewish.
Banning people for posts they make in an entirely different community should be wrong. But sadly there’s no good way to enforce that.
The dbzer0 admin could step up.
Some communities on Lemmy don't want any pushback, any at all.
You can get banned for making benign comments on uncontroversial topics if the mod is in such a mood. That's Lemmy.
Atleast on Lemmy/PieFed we have communities like this we can call them out in, or use/create alternative communities on the same topic etc.
Lemmy is small. Like, it generally doesn't matter if you get banned from some niche community. But when there so so few communities to begin with, mostly there are no alternative spaces.
I think that's perfectly fine. It's their community, they can do whatever they like with it.
I do think however that there should be an honest ban reason in the log to make it clear.
Yeah it's their community exactly. But since Lemmy is so small, such actions hurt it even more.
I think the mod might have jumped the gun a bit too fast on that. But I don't know the full story nor am I in the mood to go digging.
You could ask Draconic_NEO directly. No idea how that will go but the good news is that if you don't participate in those communities, there's really no impact on your use of the site.
@draconic_neo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Care to help us figure out why I was banned from these communities?
Odds are high that user blocked you along with the ban.
@draconic_neo@lemmy.dbzer0.com your input would be appreciated here.
dbzer0 is a pro-AI instance (not corporate AI like ChatGPT or Grok), maybe that's why?
I'm not against AI, I use it a lot and it is useful, you just need to know what to use it for and to not trust it with anything serious.
But it's not all positive AI is bad in many ways for me the privacy risks are huge and something people should worry about.
Wild to ban me for saying something bad about AI
This was a mod-ban btw, so you seem to have annoyed the mod who's moderating all those comms.
Would like to at least know what I did to annoy them this much.
Look's who's the common mod, and ping them?
It's @draconic_neo@lemmy.dbzer0.com .
Care to help understand why I was banned from all those communities?
Generally they don't ban for anti-ai sentiment, unless you're going to the AI comms and being a dick or downvoting everything in them instead of just blocking them.
My account is on the instance and I'm semi active in a few specifically anti-ai comms, and I've never had any problems.
Yep, they only ban users who cause issues within the community. Most of the ban logs say that they went into a community they don't like, started things, got banned. Then they get mad that no one wanted to clean up a mess.
Looks like someone hates PieFed users.
