when they say they're a communist
(midwest.social)
lumpenproletariat
Memes of ProductionSo communism is when council communism (understandable), anarchism (huh?) and german idealism (wtf)?
Lenin also has no right to be on the same side as people who took and bastardized his work.....
Putting Gonzalo under Castro, and Pol Pot above Trotsky, Kim Jong Il as the connector between Pol Pot and Mao
This is bait
Those are no “connectors”, those are images. There is no deep meaning in their placement.
And this isn’t bait, it’s an anarchist meme. Hard to bait people who aren’t allowed here.
i'm just disappointed you didn't put lenin on both sides. i think. i really can only recognize like 2 of the people on here i'm almost faceblind
You don't allow any kind of communism?
Look at the left side of the image or the sidebar. We allow all communism outside of Marxist-Leninism and its derivative (Maoism, Juche, etc)
Gulag 4 U!
Oh I'm gay, I'd be sent there already anyway.
I'm sorry lumps, you get sent to secret gulag. it's Super gay
Gulag ^2^
Double gulag!
Cuba has LGBT+ rights enshrined in their constitution.
And the Soviets sent us to the gulags.
China likewise treats us like shit.
But cool, one small player gives a shit. That’s about as much as the libs do 🥲 I will be fair though of all the "AES", Cuba is probably the only somewhat tolerable one.
It's a bit weird to compare the USSR to the west at a time when the west literally imprisoned and/or sterilized gay people.
As far as the LGBT+ struggle in China goes, conditions simply aren't the sort that create radicals; you don't get stonewall and eventually LGBT+ protections if cops aren't actively harassing LGBT+ people. Oppression takes different vectors and they have a different path forward.
If the USSR was only as good as the West today, it's not worth simping over.
If socialism takes redfash cops harassing LGBT+ people before they take revolutionary action against the state, it's not worth simping over.
Abolish the state outright and embrace Anarchy.
The USSR and China each brought hundreds of millions from barely subsisting to lifestyles comparable to the west within a single lifetime and made great progress on LGBT+ rights. Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US despite the blockade and constant attempts at destabilization.
You shouldn't compare the USSR to a fantasy utopia, you should compare it to the actual alternatives we've seen in reality, Tsarist and modern Russia.
Anarchist projects have yet to manage step 0: Resist capitalist encirclement for more than like 5 minutes so we don't have any actually existing examples to study.
Let’s compare the USSR to itself, an authoritarian shithole that sent gay men to do hard labour.
The Zapatista have been going strong for 30 years.
Revolutionary Ukraine fell to Communist backstabbing.
Historically the biggest threat to anarchist revolution hasn’t been capitalism, it’s been red fash communists.
Wow yeah moders Russia! So modern! Soon modern toilet, indoor!!
And being trans is considered a mental illness there, but you gotta simp for your fav dictator I guess.
The USSR was a horrible aithoritatian dictatorship murdering millions of people, every western country got a better life than that hell hole lol. They even teamed up with the Nazis and started WW2, can't make that shit up lol. So progressive.
This rationale holds for many nations under capitalism over the same time period.
It in no way justifies the superiority of the model of transition from fuedalism to state-controlled centralized economies to state-controlled capitalism present in the USSR / China
I'm sure that was a great consolation for all the LGBTQ people persecuted by nominally communist regimes.
Correct? Do you think they don't believe their struggle was worth it so nobody else has to face the same thing?
Still gays had yo flee Cuba, I wonder why...
In the 50s? Those were gusanos fleeing because their slaves revolted.
In the 90s? They were fleeing because there was a famine after the USSR collapsed and the US continued their embargo.
Between the 50s and 90s? It'd be kinda funny to flee to a place that had worse anti-gay laws.
Cuban gays took the opportunity to leave Cuba during the 1980 Mariel boatlift. From the early stages of the massive exodus, the Government described homosexuals as part of the "scum" that needed to be discarded so the socialist society could be purified.[36] Some homosexuals were given the ultimatum of either imprisonment (or extended terms for those already imprisoned) or leaving the country, although Fidel Castro publicly denied that anyone was being forced to leave.[23]
And yet they did.
the exodus was triggered by a sharp downturn in the Cuban economy
Given that gay sex was decriminalized in 1979, this seems questionable given that Fidel has personally apologized and takes full responsibility. I haven't looked up if he's done anything to compensate the victims tho.
Fuck out of here. Cubans have a very conservative culture. Doesn’t matter if being gay was “legal”, there was still persecution.
It’s the same way they have “legal” abortions but there is so much red tape that girls have to fly to Miami for a hookup from planned parenthood.
How is this more bad than capitalism we already have?
How is authority more bad than authority? It’s not, it’s all authority.
Capitalism is one problem with authoritarian systems, it is not the only problem.
You might be conflating anarcho socialists with communists there.
