Iranian state media confirms death of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
(www.nbcnews.com)
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World NewsFeel free to use this a megathread for the US/Israeli war on Iran.
Liberals truly believe Great Man Theory
It's sort of a core part of their shield, if great man theory wasn't true they'd have to reckon with the global structures of terror they support instead of just blaming putler and the orange man while screaming vote blue no matter who.
The people of Iran are rallying around Khamenei for being martyred, and Maduro was democratically elected and supported by the majority. You have a very western viewpoint.
Maduro was democratically elected and supported by the majority.
Forgive my ignorance, but didn't Maduro ban opposition party leaders from campaigning against him?
I'm not saying or agreeing with the orange man, what he did was wrong. It's not our place to intervene in other countries, but this is what I've heard everywhere.
Haven't seen anything like that, but it wouldn't surprise me if western-backed orgs were targeted.
Results of the imperialist aggression:
An 86 year old dead
150 school children vaporized
Regime is still there
American bases in the zone turned to rubble
Strait of hormuz closed
86 year old AND 2 subsequent generations of his bloodline - his daughter and his granddaughter
That psychotic demon netanyahu needs to be sent back to Lucifer.
They actually let him stay in his house? Did they want him as a martyr or something?
He was 86 years old and dying. I'd want to stay in my own house too
At that point he might have just wanted to go out on his own terms, and martyred by the USA are great terms to go out on by his ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if this strengthens the resolve of the true believers.
Khamenei was the main reason Iran did not develop nuclear weapons up to now. With him gone, that becomes a much more likely scenario.
How?
Khamenei issued a religieus ruling against developing nukes
But they were still enriching uranium covertly. How's that?
Nuclear power?
Having enough 60% enriched uranium to make a thermonuclear bomb if they change the ruling ≠ weaponizing their nuclear program
Fascist USA and Israel are the biggest threats to world peace. They are the axis of evil.
First two months of 2026: The US kidnaps one country's leader, murders another, and kills hundreds of civilians in two failed regime change attempts.
Death to the burger empire.
The scary part is how they succeed in their objectives. I'm still not over Maduro's kidnapping and how they pulled it off. It's freakish.
No, they didn't succeed. Their objectives were regime change, that didn't happen. You could at the most say that Venezuela is now more cohoperative but they didn't install a comprador.
The scary part is how they succeed in their objectives.
US government spends more than a trillion dollar on war each year.
Kidnapping Maduro didn't accomplish any of their stated objectives in Venezuela. It looks like the White House didn't even confer with energy companies about the viability of expanding their oil production?! They flipped their script immediately afterwards and claimed they won. You'd have to be a doomer to believe it.
Although, it's worth noting that this was largely a stunt. The US did not have the ability to actually invade Venezuela or to topple the government.
It was indeed a stunt, keep in mind that the US spend trillions to maintain an army capable of invading other countries, it's just not convenient for them to do so.
It's more than just inconvenience. The US does not have a good track record fighting prolonged conflicts. They can destroy a country and make millions of people suffer, but they rarely achieve long term objectives.
I would argue that their long term objectives are usually achieved, USA pretty much control the whole world.
the US absolutely doesn't control the world, the war in Ukraine and recent attempt at a trade war with China is a great example of just how weak the empire really is. The US failed to subdue Russia and their attempt to cut Russia out of the global economy resulted in a separate economic system forming with increasing amount of trade happening outside western control. Now, global majority is allied with China against the empire, and hence why we see the US desperately lashing out.
The US has hit an inflection point where the cost of maintaining the empire outstrips the plunder. All the forever wars have drained critical resources, while financial capitalism moved essential production overseas. Now the US finds that it has little economic leverage, and its material base is eroded.
You'd argue and you'd lose that argument. If you think the Empire controls the world then you're clearly not seeing or you don't want to see how it's collapsing. If they would have accomplished their objectives they wouldn't have a single opposition force in the world, yet there are plenty. Maybe you think the world is white people only? Because they do have control over all of their colonies and they are all white Westerners.
These sorts of attacks is what the US military has been investing in capacity to complete for decades. This is why there has been an investment bleeding edge tech which costs insane amounts of money to develop.
No, insane costs are due to how the military industrial complex rules the country and inflates prices because it needs more profits. Costs do not necessarily mean more sophisticated or that have an actual improvement in the battlefield. In fact recent trends show the opposite, the cheaper the tech the better output it produces on the battlefield. It's low cost vehicles, missiles and drones that are leading the battle, not 20 trillion F-35s.
the military fully backed him thats why, not like donald planed it out, they did under his general order. that and kidnaping moduro hasn't really changed the country much after hes gone.
The real battle happens before any shots are fired.
Weed turns you into a bot if you don't take breaks #nothatingjustsaying
Death to the burger empire.
You'd be surprised how long dead ideas live
Can they really be a “threat” when they’re actively killing people all over the world?
Yeah, more accurately they are the active enemies of world peace.
No. Most of what Russia does on the world stage is good, it is one of the biggest supporters of many global south countries and one of the few remaining bulwarks preventing US imperialism from running completely roughshod over the global south. For example right now, see Cuba and how Russia is providing support and oil as the US tries to starve them of energy and starve them to death. You may have been taught Putler=Voldemort, but no, Russia at this point is acting largely as a force for good in the world.
When they stop murdering children in Ukraine, which they can do literally any time they want, then I'll be more inclined to believe you.
We live in your head rent free huh.
And no, our ideas aren't simply "x is bad", without violent resistance we'd have slavery, white women would be chained to the kitchen, workers would have never got a 40h work week, etc. We don't have a consensus on Russia and many will defend it harder because it's funny to piss off people like you, but Russia is nowhere near as bad as the US, and we wouldn't have modern Russia if it weren't for the US as well.
Look at the numbers of people killed just by western sanctions alone, it's over half a million a year. The US has removed democratically elected leaders too many times, like Salvador Allende in Chile or even Mosaddegh. They're starving Cuba RIGHT NOW. But I guess unless mainstream media tells you our lives matter you just don't care.
So yeah, slander us all you want, but we're nothing if not ideologically consistent.
We can play this game forever, my point is that I don't believe you really care about our lives in the global south, considering you seem to ignore that the vast majority of conflicts involving Russia wouldn't have manifested without western imperialism. We lose people all the time through sanctions and regime changes and IMF imposed austerity. We don't celebrate Ukrainian civilians dying, the war that common Ukrainians no longer want to fight won't end as long as the west refuses a deal.
LMFAO
They also bombed and killed several members of his family, including his daughter, granddaughter, and son in law.
The Greatest Satan. Thanks for confirming, comrade. I don't believe USA/Isntrael without confirmation from non-liars.
No probs, same. If it's a "trump says" source, then it's immediately sus and we need at least a confirmation from the other side.
Hmm yes I think I will remove the respected leader that opposed Iran having a nuclear weapons program. 👀
That was widely expected to die soon of natural causes anyway
In a society that reveres martyrdom above all else 🤔
I feel like its a goal of the MIC as it gives them a reason to exist. Use violence, terror, kill civilians to create more enemies and justify more military spending.
Not a good long term strategy, but the orphan crushing machine still has people willing to operate it.
The US generally benefits from depopulating & undeveloping resource rich or strategically marginal areas for coercion, keeping costs down, denial purposes, or just to keeping value chains stable, but this risks blowing up the petrodollar system. I think they might actually be completely insane. What did WarClaude™ tell them?
W.O.C.R. War Operation Claude Response
You forgot the last bit, when we've fucked the whole world up escape to bunker.
Well they created isis last time they displayed their level of stupidity. This time... Super isis?
Yes the goal is 100% super-ISIS they wanted to get this going in Xinjiang and Central Asia. ISIS is actually smart here's the thing. The US benefits from having a higher level of productivity due to advanced technology, and basically cannot survive without laying waste to entire regions to keep them underdeveloped + access resources.
Read Value Chains it's great https://annas-archive.li/md5/0ca2108287828ca6508816b7ecbe9a3e
profit. it’s always about profit.
Israel going unchallenged in the region will be the worst possible outcome if Iran falls.
Whelp.
He was 86. I don’t know to what extent he was still in charge. It may have been anywhere from still fully in charge to just a figurehead.
Rest in peace. May the US Empire and its dogs crumble.
He's probably resting in pieces, not peace.
Show some respect you rabid Westerner dog with no value for anything. Your dirty country will be soon paying the cost, make no mistake.
One can only hope.
So the US has taken action against two heads of state in two months, and the rest of the world is not at all worried?
I mean, if fair is fair, this should be a free-for-all, so I'd be all for Netanyahu, Bbukele and Putin going up in smoke next.
They are worried, but most of them are maintaining tenuous comprador regimes where their ruling classes' finances are firmly linked to the imperial core
Trump's safe in your book?
His owners will get rid of him when he is no longer useful. At the moment he is the clown face emoji they all sign themselves off with
He has to at least answer for his pedophilia before he goes up in smoke. And besides, forget the smoke, I want to see him under the guillotine, his head framed as an example of What Not To Do.
The first thing to die in war is the truth.
Truth and more than 80 elementary school girls.
Of course, but it wouldn't make sense to lie about this, either way he was a 86 year old, and I'm not going to pretend that the Iranian regime was a paragon of freedom.
That regime has been practicing for this very day for DECADES. They have plans B, C, D, E, F, and G on the books.
In this case, truth primarily in the form of marriage advice. Have you seen his actual posts?
No. Enlighten me, please.
Hard to grab good examples in the current state of his Telegram/Twitter/etc. apart from the famous ones like "woman is a flower" and the ones about never ever being mean to your wife (man was a great strategist). This is the vibe though:
I have some older articles saved regarding misconceptions about Iranians having the ISIS misogyny thing going on. Great examples in there. I will dig those up and ping you when I post them. Also should repost stuff like Booker Omole's thoughts on their revolution.
Those are really sweet spirited. I wonder how he was IRL.
Edit also thank you. Sorry. They made me want to cry.
They really are, when I checked out the discussion group for his official Telegram chat, the stuff people were posting surprised me because it was all flower-themed, intensely so. Pink and red petals everywhere. Of course currently it is very death to America but the aesthetic for that is on point as well:
I saw that. Extremely appropos.
Who knows. Lots of people who do bad things can be personable, it's one of the many weird things about humans.
Bad things like delaying the development of a thermonuclear anti-Tel Aviv device. For sure for sure
More nukes are never good and the fact that rearming is on the table for most nations shows how awful the general state of international relations is. Obviously the biggest culprit for the state of affairs is the United State.
Huh what mine?
No I mean the cleric
Well war over now right? Trump said the goal was regime change. We'll mission accomplished. Right?
In the model of Venezuela as long as the actual top leader isn't in charge anymore, it's regime change.
It's a "win" & a "peace".
The regime is not one person not to say that trump would not find more excuses if the regime really fall
If it is in Venezuela why not Iran?
what do you mean. Venezuela regime is still in place
Exactly, so what would be different about Iran is what I mean
because Iran is the biggest threat to Israel colonial ambition and they do not want another 1979
Americans love bravado. This will be millions of Republican votes.
Watch them lose their fucking minds when the price of gas goes up.
Gas is expensive. Life is cheap.
Wait for the market to open
I made the mistake of flipping through MSN headlines last night when I went to bed. The first mention if USA invasion of Iran was a Barrons article about what it meant for energy portfolios.
Ya I kinda knew it, I don't think Israel would risk the embarrassment of being wrong.
There was enough confusion that Reuters initially walked it back while the death of his family members was confirmed.
Yeah but I just had a gut feeling this time 🤷♂️
Lol they just chew up car cables. Which I approve of
They're wrong with regularity
Yes, but I didn't think they would lie about this in particular. It would be to embarrassing to be wrong about this.
They lied several times about just this with a previous leader lol
Iran, or the US and Israel killing Khamenei?
I have no idea what you're talking about. The Iran? USA? Israel?
And why is it fascism? Like a lot of what has happened in the USA was pretty fascist, but starting a war isn't part of the list. There are a few definitions of fascism (e.g. by Adorno), so which one are you using here?
What do you mean, I'm really confused here.
Define fascism
op might be referring to perpetual war
Oh true I'm so aggro rn. I was thinking like the lib conception of having a charismatic leader = personality cult = fascism. I really do love having that argument too much
don't mention it. seeing libs celebrate war and destruction is really doing me a number.
Humanity
Naw it's more fun to get historical with it
