For those annoyed with all these Spider-Man films, Sony is obligated to keep making them to avoid losing the film rights. They're ruining the franchise one movie at a time for this crap. At this point they should just stop and avoid throwing more money away.

For all the people confused about this headline because of the runaway success of the last 5 spider-man films, they’re specifically talking about the spider-man-less spider-man universe films

JUST. FUCKING. STOP. YOU DON'T HAVE THE CHOPS.

when they release this many, there's too many for me to bother keeping up with, and I tune it out

How many will star Jared Leto?

hurray. another reboot. just what everyone was asking for.

I'm pretty sure it's so Sony can:

  1. Keep as much spiderman out of Marvel's hands
  2. Not have to pay much.

I remember Sony had a contract that they have the rights to Spiderman, as long as they keep making movies with it.

yeah that was why we had the crap ff4 movies to.

Make a remake of the Bollywood one. Keep Govinda as Superman. Use all the same effects, but boost the production value. Use the same choreography with floating head digi-doubles, animated by the Little Mermaid FX team.

If you can get the budget over a billion dollars, I'd see it once in theaters.

If Sony wants a superhero universe, why not just adapt InFamous?

Maybe...stop. we dont need so many super hero movies? Or at least wait 10 years lol

I was confused because I thought the recent Spider-Man movies did really well, but apparently they're counting Morbius, Madame Web, and Kraven the Hunter as part of the "Spider-Man universe". Turns out "Spider-Man" movies without Spider-Man in them don't tend to do well.

Spider Man succeeds? Make more!

Spider Man flops? Also make more!

AGAIN? In my lifetime now I have seen... god how many 4 separate spiderman reboots? This is literally the definition of insanity. Take. The hint. Sony, we are tired of superheroes. They're fun, but god can you give it 2 years without doing a spiderman film?

They literally can't. If they go too long between spider man movies the rights revert back to Marvel.

Now that I didn't know, and explains a lot. That seems like either a very smart deal by marvel, and/or a very stupid deal by sony

Sony made the deal in the late 1990s when Marvel was basically bankrupt. They didn't predict that Disney would eventually own the whole thing and turn it into a behemoth.

To be fair, the fact that it is now a behemoth is probably a factor in why Sony continues to throw money at it instead of letting the rights lapse. The more people Disney gets into Marvel, the more potential for better return on a Sony-made movie in the same universe. At least that's probably what the execs think.

That doesn't mean the best course of action is dumping a billion dollars into a movie that flops.

So our only hope is that they keep on making shit movies until they decide they're only going to keep on losing money and hand it back to marvel

Or.... They could just revive the Spectacular Spiderman series, right? Everyone loved that show.

I don't know all the legal stuff, but my understanding is that use in shows is a separate license. Sony specifically owns the rights to live action feature length films.

Sony, ~~we are~~ I am tired of superheroes.

Ftfy

I'm not tired of superheroes. I'm tired of the same superheroes being rebooted again and again, and then shitty, poorly written, poorly acted money grabs.

This right here. Nothing wrong with a Spider-Man movie, I'm looking forward to the next entry in the animated Spider Verse movies. Solid story telling that's not rehashing hours origin story for the millionth time

The Uncle Ben must be sacrificed!

“You say, ‘$1.9 billion, what’s wrong with [saying] 2?’ Well, it didn’t get into China, but in my mind [the film’s box office is] over 2 [billion] because I know what we would have done in China.”

These people need a fucking reality check, for a litany of reasons.

Spider-verse Trilogy: “Am I a joke to you?”

Yeah, reeeally hoping this doesn't fuck over the third animated Spiderverse film, myself. The first two have been a glorious breath of fresh air as far as animation styles go IMO.

GORGEOUS animation!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way it sounds is that they're not touching Tom Holland's version of Spiderman, but rather they're starting from scratch with all the extended Spiderman universe (e.g Venom, sinister-six, Madame Web, Kraven, etc...)

Especially considering Rothman is quoted as saying "Never bet against Kevin Feige".

I wouldn't mind a movie about a young J. Jonah Jameson in his investigative reporter days.

Set it in the Spider-Man Noir universe.

Yes. Sony has the rights to everything Spider-Man except for modern normal Spider-Man (Tom Holland is Marvel). Sony made Spider-Verse, Madame Web, Venom, they can only make Spider-universe stuff. They could make a real Spider-Gwen movie and it would probably be a hit. That's what the trailers for Madame Web looked like it was going to be, until I made the mistake of watching it.

Knowing Sony was behind the Spider-Verse makes me think maybe they can finally make a good LA one?

That sounds like fun, who you casting as Gwen?

Chris Pratt.

I was thinking Jack Black.

The sinister six, starring Chris Pratt, Jack Black, Jared Leto, the rock, Timothee chalamet and awkwafina

Nah, he's over done. Now Chris Pine could do a solid Gwen

Later - Sony's Spiderman reboot marks 8th flop

Sony should make a deal with Disney. Allow Disney use the Spider rights on movies while Sony could use marvel rights on games.

I suspect Sony just thinks if they throw enough money at it, they'll get more return than they would have before, since Disney has bolstered the Marvel brand. If that's true, they'll hang on to the deal they have as long as possible.

The world would be very different if Sony had just looked to acquire Marvel in its entirety when the Spiderman deal was made (which was ≈10 years prior to the Disney buyout).

Did they ever consider that maybe people are actually tired of Spider-Man? He's been on TV or in theaters constantly for the last 60 years, retelling the exact same story, rehashing the same few "classic" runs of the comic. Maybe we're just generally tired of "genius loser with superstrength". Maybe we don't need another high school story. Maybe, just maybe, they should look at a genuinely new property rather than Disney dreck.

This isn't rebooting the Marvel universe Spider-Man movies. This is rebooting all the ones that specifically had zero Spider-Man despite being about his main enemies: Morbius, Kraven, Madame Web, and Venom.

What we need is a Clone Saga on the screen

Are there any sets of identical quadruplets who are all currently acting? Because it just wouldn't work with an overreliance on camera tricks and CGI.

Not quintuplets, but the Hemsworth brothers(?) Look pretty similar.

Elijah Wood and Daniel Radcliffe, could each do a couple for subtle differences of clones and could make camera tricks easier. Both are good enough and odd enough to make it work.

Wait, hold on, the last FIVE Spider-Man movies (three MCU entries and two (soon to be three) animated films, all under Sony’s label) have been domestic and foreign successes. Blockbusters even.

They're just mad they can’t make a decent Spider-Man without help.

I really hope they add more legs this time, it is just unrealistic that they only have four in the old Spidermans.

Do they have the rights to have Spider-Man in that universe this time?

Sony has the movie rights to Spider-Man, full stop. They lent Spidey to the MCU for a cut.

In order to maintain the film rights, they have to make a spider man film every so often (2 years?) or the rights lapse and they loose them.

Thus. Reboots. And Morbius. Etc...

*5 years and 9 months, to be exact.

Now, if only there was a way to keep them from making a new fucking batman movie every 90 mins or so...

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