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MemesCanada: Nope, not the first, but it's been a while.
The difference is that we used to stand behind the bully egging him on.
What, concretely, has america actually done to Europe and Canada though? It mostly just seems like trump saying dumb shit that insults their honor. I guess he's done some tarrifs but that's nothing compared to the bombings, regime change, extractivism, sanctions etc. that the rest of the world gets.
It's more like the rest of the world is on the gallows while Europe and Canada are in the pillory yelling about their new found solidarity.
Blow up energy pipelines, have them sanction russia. Just do everything to cut them off the only other nation that can compete with yankeeland in the energy business for europes demand. As a result we are more isolated and dependent on yankeeland oil.
Wasn't that the Ukrainians? I guess the US didn't say anything after they knew, but it seems like the Europeans probably knew too and didn't want to investigate it further because they wanted to keep their relationship with Ukraine. In general it seems Europe are more rhetorically hostile to Russia and don't really need the US to tell them to sanction them.
Also Russia is not the only one that can supply Europe besides america, oil exports are still dominated by the Saudis and the Gulf states. Even Canada exports about as much oil as america.
Wasn’t that the Ukrainians?
officially, it was ukranian individuals acting alone that blew it up for funsies; but everyone knows that it was ukraine enabled by the us empire to blame russia and make sure that europe can't go back to buying russian oil at the same capacity.
and, like europe, the saudis and gulf states will not do anything that the americans don't want them to do; so buying from them is also a non-starter.
It been interesting to see white people in Canada afraid of being colonized while vehemently downplaying the Indigenous people's grievances as "why can't they just accept the culture they've been given?" So close to self awareness but will never get there.
Seriously, when Indigenous groups pushed back on Carney's "elbows up" nation building projects, I saw so many comments from internet geniuses along the lines of "they're trying to treat this like their inter-tribal relations where they demand soverignty and veto power on anything that goes on in their territory at any point in the process, unfortunately that's not how Western investment and development work." Yeah, it really is fucking unfortunate that we're still denying them their culture and ways of doing things.
You must be pretty uneducated to think that USA did not mess with Europe economy, politics, society etc etc.
I mean for fuck sake, USA was both funding and directing terrorist attacks all over the Europe up until 1990s
(Years of Lead, Operation Gladio...)
Oh I'm well aware, but seems like a lot of Europeans are not.
Am I supposed to feel bad or…?
Tell me when America didn't mess with all countries politics, tell me, I'm waiting.
For a brief moment on September 10th, 2001, the CIA took a relaxing spa day.
And before the inception of USA, the time GB didnt do it before them.
That's too funny, it would be more hilarious and real if you put like 100 faces there in the bottom.
What goes around…
Lol wat? Europe got hard fucked by The US straight up reneging on military alliance TWICE!
The second time they spent 3 years being like "hey that Hitler guy has some good points, you know..."
Fucks sake
America to every other country: https://youtu.be/esslNGOMNAU?t=43
Except this time America's leader is allied with those other countries.
"The incredible evil of the US is ok because the world wasn't a utopia previously."
What do you mean? Are you saying Trump is allied with the global south?
If by "Global South" you mean Russia and North Korea, then sure.
Trump isn't allied with Russia or the DPRK.
Now now mr Trump supporter, saying it's all Clinton propaganda doesn't make the facts go away:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9NSgxbGzhY
Now now mr Trump supporter, saying it’s all Clinton propaganda doesn’t make the facts go away:
My god, how has .world managed to cultivate the must obnoxious people imaginable
Imagine being this politically illiterate lol
Allies is when you shake hands but otherwise heavily sanction your "partners"
You mean the sanctions he tried to block and veto? Those sanctions?
Why did he do that, do you think? Try every tool he had to oppose sanctions against Russia and North Korea?
You mean the sanctions he tried to block and veto? Those sanctions?
No I mean the sanctions that are still in place when he's the president and has a republican majority in Congress and Senate. He's able to kidnap a foreign statesman, bomb foreign nations and impose and lift tariffs however he wants, yet the sanctions on his supposed allies are still there.
Try every tool he had to oppose sanctions against Russia and North Korea?
Therefore I doubt that he "tried every tool" to oppose sanctions for his supposed allies
Libs please pick up a book other than Harry Potter, 1984 and Mein Kampf
Not a Trump supporter.
Trump isn't allied with Russia, just because he's exiting Europe to focus more on Latin and South America doesn't mean he's an ally. Otherwise he'd lift sanctions, same with the DPRK. Nothing came of his meeting with Kim Jong-Un.
But he blocked those sanctions at every turn, remember?
He failed to even say a single critical word of either of those two leaders.
If you're not a Trump supporter why do you say all the same things they say?
No? If Trump supported Russia and the DPRK he would lift the sanctions.
I don't say all the same things Trump supporters say. Can you give an example?
It so terrible, America ruined everything. Before America everyone lived in peace and treated each other respectfully. No wars, no violence, just Western Europe chillin together trying to get to know the middle east on a more personal and religious level 🙄.
I guess we shouldn't be angry that we got our countries coup'd, bombed, invaded and sanction by the US, they're poor smol beans, can't be held accountable for genociding hundreds of millions
typical lemmy.world shit take
I'm beginning to think that the whole reason lemmy.world exists is to remind us why we left reddit
Same with piefed. Bringing so much of the worst parts of reddit to the fediverse
i'm still convinced that .world was either a psyop or became a captured instance to ensure that as few defecting redditors join any of the pro-leftist instances as possible.
it's the only thing that explains why it was so heavily promoted on so many subreddits instead of lemmy.ml when it had nothing to offer at the beginning of the reddit protests and why there was a coordinated effort to defederat the leftist core instances throughout the lemmyverse.
now piefed is getting that same treatment from reddit and they literally used the same pics as before, but edited out .world in favor of piefed
There was a concerted effort by some to recruit of reddit to the fediverse. They have an "anti-tankie" bias and so directed users to instances accordingly. They're currently recruiting off reddit to piefed as well.
It wasn't a psyop as much as people that liked lemmy and wanted it to grow taking action and the government propaganda brainworms steering it in a more pro-US direction.
yeah the direct reddit tie in with world and piefed definitely feels sketch af
i used to wonder if this made me a conspiracy theorist; but the whole tiktok situation combined w watching the cartel humiliate sheinbaum on social media as they retaliate for the us empire's directed assassination of el mencho has convinced me that they're not above using all social media platforms to maintain their grip on the narrative.
and they're really good at it too; they must have learned a lot from the tiktok/4chan/reddit man-o-spheres.
yeah, and also stuff like this that's been going on forever https://hrnews1.substack.com/p/feminist-icon-gloria-steinem-was
says a .ml user
(obviously not all .ml users are bad, many sign up without realizing that .ml has a bad reputation, but .ml is pro-tankie and the admins are tankies)
you are correct, .world is too reddit-like
aww dronie is mad
Are you trying to say communists control Reddit? Lemmy was made by communists, of course communists are going to be here.
Are you trying to say communists control Reddit?
no
Then why are you saying it's hypocritical for a Lemmy.ml user to say that Lemmy.world reminds us of Reddit? It's pretty normal that us communists would leave Reddit for Lemmy.
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