Gavin Newsom 🤮

Gavin Newsom needs to be more based and stop talking about compromise

Newsom is a traditional politician. If people vote for him they're shooting themselves in the foot

I cant believe she would care so much about pronouns.

He’s not wrong, just for the wrong reasons. Wasting capital on fighting over pronouns while trump’s SS and company are building reeducation camps or whatever you want to call them. Keep distracted over the small stuff and soon enough no argument will be allowed.

NEWSOME NEVER

I don't want a new Reagan era.

The Democrats need to focus on taxing the rich. Anything else is a distraction. No offense to any who feel like their particular status is under attack. It’s under attack by billionaires, and they’re doing it to keep us (non-billionaires) divided into two camps.

Thus ends Newsom's rise that was small to begin with

hes going to fail, hes doing what HARRIS IS DOING courting republicans and keeping the status quo with israel like schumer and hakeem. I suspect it will be another REPUBLICAN win at this point.

If you let him to win the primaries. You need to do everything within your ability to stop him from winning.

If they can sacrifice queer people, what stops them from sacrificing other groups?

Reps should be more culturally normal and stop promoting Nazis worldwide

If you genuinely want to shut republicans up about trans issues I'm pretty sure countering with "why are you so fixated on transgender people? Are you a chaser or something?" Would go a long way.

Culturally normal like all the people in the Epstein Files?

Cannot be stressed enough. Neolibs like Newsom are just as mired in the Epstein files as the rest of them. Participants and protectors both. Servants of the Epstein class.

Yup. Kimberly Guilfoyle is his former wife and Donald Trump Jr.'s former fiancee.

Man, the democrats really are trying to make the 2028 election as narrow as possible

SCHUMER and the dinos wants to keep the status quo, what better way then to have repulicans win. DNC is designed to keep any "left" leaning candidate from center right from winning, and the RIGHT wingers have to be the antagonist, to create a problem that keeps DNC elected and not "left" of SCHUMERs.

Like the Republicans have ever cared about being normal. They're the weirdest motherfuckers there are. But they're proof-positive that if you give something concrete to vote for, that people will vote for you, even if it's fucking stupid. Maybe instead of campaigning on "we're not them" the Democrats can pick something to fight for; actually making an affirmative case for something rather than defaulting to the mean of the mythical "average voter" that makes no sense in reality anyway.

He's explicitly anti-trans, anti-unhoused. He will never get my vote.

Have you considered that perhaps the problem is that people like you consider us "culturally un-normal"? We exist. We aren't going anywhere. Get the fuck over it.

Gavin Newsome needs to suck the peanuts out of my poo

I guess he doesn't need my vote then.

Sure buddy, maybe this time we'll get those hypothetical moderate votes.

he wants the "Far right votes", during his time in cali his influence never reached far outside of his district after he left SF behind, he isnt that good statewise or nationally, only super locally with rich folks.

If you think I’m CuLtUraLlY aBnOrMaL then don’t worry about getting my vote 🤷‍♂️

it sounds insane. better don't vote or vote for independent candidate. dems are right-center party, which is pretty shitty, but they're not fascists. maga dreams about making lgbt+ illegal and literally put people in concentration camps, like it had happened in Russia not so long ago. whatever dems would do, they wouldn't take your basic human rights.

but i would actually recommend you to move from US to Europe

Republicans are liberal fascists, and (establishment) Democrats are fascist liberals. The only domestic policy that would really be different if Schumer were President instead of Trump is that Schumer would make it look legit. Foreign policy would be better, except in regards to Israel. We desperately need to move away from the Schumer wing, and I think Newsom would be worse.

Democrats have been eroding away my "basic human rights" since at least when Clinton took office. Trump wouldn't be nearly as bad as he is without systems put in place for him by Democrats. Obama greatly expanded executive power and mass surveillance. Obama and Clinton both wed the Democratic party to Wall Street which is the literal root of fascism. (Fascism binds economic and political power systems).

Again and again Democrats have backed the militarization of police and the expansion of the private prison system. (Credit to Biden for breaking the private prison trend, but don't look for that from Newsom).

If Newsom is our next President, he will absolutely be followed by a Republican who will be even worse than Trump. I said the same about Biden in 2020, and look what happened.

The most important front for fighting fascism in America today is making damn sure the next Democratic nominee is nothing like Newsom. Id he wins the nomination, the war is lost. It really won't matter if he wins or not.

Sorry, I don't understand what you're talking about. Schumer would not allow ICE do what they do now (yes, I know that ICE existed before and illegal deportations were happening before, but not in such scale and such aggression, it's incomparable). Nowadays any hispanic person, citizen or not, cannot feel safe outside and even inside their homes. You folks just need more than two parties. If Newsome gets nominated, left-wing Dems should break away and organize a new party. Moderate conservatives would probably too, considering how trump's ratings flop. Then your people would finally have a choice

There were 3 ICE officers involved in the shooting of Renee Good and Alex Pretti. All three served under Biden, and I believe under Obama as well. Every time an establishment Democrat frames the problem as one of "training" they are gaslighting. Hillary was just literally bragging that both Clinton and Obama did more deportations than Trump did in his first term. There has been zero pushback from the Democratic establishment on the idea that more deportations is better. That's what I mean about Democrats making it look legitimate.

Third party strategies can never work in the US. Even if they could, it is far easier to take over an existing party, as a tough as that might be. There are a bunch of reasons this is the case that have been discussed into the ground elsewhere.

The good news on the Newsom front is that it seems extremely unlikely that he will be a serious contender - even with establishment backing. Democratic voters in general have finally started catching up with progressives on seeing the establishment for what it is.

That's a pretty insane take given reality and observable facts.

Is it really? I think we'd be a hell of a lot better off today if Trump won in 2020 instead of 2024. I also think we'd be better off if George Bush Sr. beat Clinton in 1992. The wrong Democrat is far more damaging in the long term than any Republican.

Strategically, politically, and economically is what I was talking about. the dark folks puppeting the GOP and trump we caught off guard last time. Now they ere prepared and are making huge plays that destabilize and put the US into inexorable decline. This one wasn't one we come back from. Now, that said, your point of view is something I did make assumptions about. If you mean just for the average citizen over the next few years, maybe a decade...then yeah, it should be okish. I wouldn't be hopeful, but it isn't end of days stuff yet. Also, if you position is as someone external to the US, then yeah, the ultimate fall of the US is absolutely a wonderful thing as larger external muntinational groups are forming in preparation for such a fall and to become self-reliant. The EU has a lot to gain from this collapse. So, in a way, you are right.

Strategically, voting in the wrong Democrats is what enabled the Republicans to do all of that. The US was in decline long before this batch of Republicans, and the Clintons had a lot to do with it.

Gavin Newsom believes in nothing. I honestly don't see any reason to believe he would govern any differently than Vance. He's nothing but a political opportunist, and the opportunities he seems drawn to are all coming from the right. Having Vance in office would fire up progressive resistance. Newsom would drive progressives to despair.

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