Source: Mastodon.

Yeah they're open-source minded, this totally aligns with their ideals. Good for them.

Good for them. LibreOffice is a decent replacement for Microsoft. LibreOffice comes standard on most Linux distros

Yayy infact most OSSs should switch

What took so long?!

Just a logical consequence, other will follow.

based as hell

So fetch

My dad is a 60 year old warehouse manager and ex highschool-principal.

I recently found that he prefers using libreoffice at work for spreadsheets.

I did a test with a group of gen z on my work (I'm the IT guy) that never used excel before (Or used only once), and most of them liked libreoffice. The only detail was the ones that used Excel before, i change the interface to the microsoft one, but they did not liked. So they ask for the original from microslop...

Thank you

Amazing to see Mastodon instead of Bluesky there ! Too many people falling for the Bluesky trap...

Yeah, I'm surprised how many go to Bluesky. It's just Twitter all over again, controlled by a single company.

The thing that make them move to Bluesky, its Elon, not the federation (Which is a shame tbh)

It wasn't the "controlled by a single company" part that made me leave Twitter, honestly. It was the Nazi CEO...

that's the best part, just as twitter was sold to a nazi bluesky can be sold to a nazi too!

that's what can happen when it is controlled by a single company

Then we'll leave Bluesky too. 🤷

And fly to the next private one that will be bought in time by another Nazi?

If it's a good replacement, maybe. I'll deal with that if it happens. One battle at a time.

no need to worry, at that point the new nazi owner already has all the data they got from the platform

I think they do actually want Twitter again though. Admittedly, what Twitter used to be was still much better than what it is now.

Tbh I am on Bluesky more than Mastodon. Bluesky just feels easier to use. Normal users don’t care about federation. They want the app to work easily for them. Mastodon requires a bit to get a good feed etc. Bluesky you can be lazy. Wish Mastodon had like a default ā€œwhat’s hotā€ or ā€œDiscoverā€ feed. Really helps find people to follow as well.

Wish Mastodon had like a default ā€œwhat’s hotā€ or ā€œDiscoverā€ feed. Really helps find people to follow as well.

You mean like Mastodon's "Trending" and "Discover" feeds?

The last couple mastodon updates made it easier to access the trending feed (which afaik has existed since 2021) and added features like quote posts. Bluesky starter packs and custom shareable feeds are definitely its major perks.

The odds though bluesky will get bought up by right wing billionaires in the next 10 years is almost 100% unless there's a major change in media management laws so don't get too attached to bluesky since there is like a nonzero chance trump jr buys it with his crypto bribes.

Ease of use is one of the failings of the federation that needs to be addressed or it will never have a larger pool of users.

But can it really be addressed? Centralized systems will probably always be easier to use. For example, if you want to follow a lemmy community, it will be community@somewhere instead of just the community name, and it will be possible to have competing communities with the same same but different servers. This will always leave people confused, and it's something inherent to the federated model

That’s part of the problem. Confusion like this just leads people to not engage with the platform. I suppose it is what it is and just enjoy this place while there are still people here.

To complement my previous comment, I believe the best course for us would be, instead of trying to address something that will never be better than in centralized networks, to try creating things that are great and exclusive to the fediverse. People can deal with minor inconveniences if they get some unique experience in exchange

How can we create something exclusive to the fediverse?Ā 

Open source content serving algorithms? We’d need to classify the content and have a server that recommends based on the algorithm. Also, user tracking to some degree (but maybe that can be handled locally?)

I think a simple ā€˜popular’ or ā€˜trending’ feed wouldn’t need user tracking. Or if it was really needed to be customized maybe users could opt into share what topics they are interested in when they sign upĀ 

I don't think that ease of use is the problem. The problem is, people want an exact copy. Most people don't like changes, they just hope that the alternative is the same, just without the issues they leaving it. Same expectations for GIMP and Linux operating systems... (for the normie at least).

"Trending" gets you somewhat the way there to a "what's hot." Though I wish it'd update more often.

But, in reality, that just means I get off of my phone sooner because I've seen the same stuff so that's fine.

Very nice

Read it in Borat 🩲 šŸ‘

I mean if libre stuff is not getting off we cannot expect much from others but even this suggests they are reducing their xitter activity which is likely the way to go. Do a minimal on it to keep the recognition and expansively post in the federation.

They were on mastodon since 2019, its a shift away from twitter. Edit: spell

mastrodon? Did John Mastodon change his name lately?

Hey man I thought it was funny

John Mastrodonmus

I believe it was merely a typo.

LibreOffice does, what politicians are too scared to do.

Release the Epstein files?

Hehe, unfortunately not. But maybe you can read them soon with their brilliant software!

Libreofficedoes, what Nintendon't.

Libredoffices, what Nintendon't.

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I'm still flabergasted by the fediverse sometimes. I search for libreoffice in my mastodon client and one of the results is "libreoffice@lemmy.ml" and even a peertube instance.

If the mastodon instance you are on doesn’t know about LibreOffice’s account, then it won’t show. You will have to search for their handle/username like this: @libreoffice@fosstodon.org

This is mostly a problem on smaller instances. The bigger an instance is, the more connections to other instances it has.

Oh thanks, but I did find the correct account. Just also thing I wouldn't expect, like lemmy. But in hindsight it's obvious because of how the fediverse works. It was just a fun reminder of how cool the concept of federlization is.

Ah okay. Then I simply misunderstood you.

It is indeed very cool how the Fediverse works. Everything is connected in one way or another other.

You have to understand that federation doesn't happen instantly. Your server has to sync with the other instances before you can find the account you're looking for.

Stuff like this is why Bluesky is more popular than Mastodon. We need to find a way to fix these little quirks if we are serious about growing the fediverseĀ 

Hell yeah I'll follow them on masto

Give them a follow at @libreoffice@fosstodon.org to show them support!

Edit: I tried to search how to create the link, but couldn't find the right info, so would appreciate any insight. But you should be able to search in Mastodon for them.

does anyone know why fosstodon seems to be blocked on piefed.social?

There was drama last year because the (or one?) moderator of fosstodon is a fascist.

That's unfortunate. I understand the admin's perspective, but most users, myself included, are likely in the dark about these backend issues. It’s frustrating to have barriers to following people in an already small community. Is this just the inevitable tradeoff of federation? If anyone knows of a less regulated piefed instance, I’m all ears.

As far as I can tellĀ piefed.caĀ seems to be less regulated than piefed.socialĀ 

Is this just the inevitable tradeoff of federation?

Not being able to follow someone isn't a federation problem, it's an instance mismatch problem.

When you can't follow the people you want on Twitter (because they were banned), that's an instance mismatch. Your preferences don't align with Twitter's.

The difference is that, with Twitter, there is only one instance. You can't switch to a different Twitter where those people aren't blocked.

On Fedi, you can choose an instance that blocks and federates according to your preference. And if you can't find one (unlikely for most users), you can host your own.

If you just want Piefed instances with less regulation, these appear to have the fewest number of blocks:

Pretty sure both of the original admins of Fosstodon stepped downed.

I'm not sure if it's Lemmy or my client (Jerboa) but when I tap on that link I don't get their real Mastodon profile. I get something that looks legit, but it has minimal details and only one post from 9 months ago??

For those considering, always remember that you don’t have to ā€žmoveā€œ, but can simply use the platforms in parallel. It’s a good compromise if leaving the more active network feels too heavy.

Yes but also leave the Nazi bar. Use Bluesky as your "active network" if you need one.

They should have done that a long time ago.

what mastodon server do you recommend ?

I mean it doesn't really matter that much, I am currently on kind.social, because I like the name.

I would suggest you use fedi.garden to find your own server.

You could just make your own pod at fedihost if you dont know which pod to pick. Then you can make your own emojis and rules.

https://cyberpunk.lol/ :3

Based

Fetch

Libreoffice doesnt work for me. Too much annoyance.

LibreOffice works great for me. One of the most useful FOSS softwares I've used for school. Do you want to actually elaborate on what about it doesn't work for you and potentially get help, or just complain into the void?

I run a small business with LibreOffice

Long, long, long overdue, but hooray for them finally getting there.

It isn't an airport. We don't need to keep announcing everyone's departure.

Clown take. This comment would make a lot more sense if the original post were made by some cry baby throwing a tantrum after getting spawn camped; however, in this case, the original post is spreading the word about how and where a product's dev team can be reached going forward (and how/where they cannot be reached anymore). We very much need these kinds of announcements.

It's an airstrip in a warzone. Every departure is newsworthy.

yay! sucks that they're on https://fashtodon.org/ tho

does this instance have this reputation?

yeah there was a big thing about it a year or so ago

more info https://mastodon.social/@lo__/114370692797365997

that helps explain mastodon's push to id verification.

No

I look at the twitter ~~(previously known as x the everything app)~~ tweet and.. there's a lot of 'wHy mAStoDOn?' and yeah, its not perfect, there's a lot of issues, some people are supporting Nostr (which even less people use!!! but, I am curious on what is the point is using one over the other, I am open to that but I dunno) but like, people who use LibreOffice and have a Mastodon Account have a large overlap but I do see where the Twitter people would still exist in that space. Still, I hope they still crosspost or something, as a major org, especially. These days, people use Twitter and see others (especially Bluseky) as weird, and Mastodon as 'too complicated' and everything else nonexistent, but hey, I still have a Twitter Account for Following Artists so.. until Twitter collapses or something, yeah...

Leave X for Mastodon

I hope they don't phase X out, because that would be a social media suicide. Orgs, public personas and projects are not average users and can't really care about personal preference or user experience, they only need to care where people are. They are there to get social media reach and just jumping out of Xitter would harm their social media presence and the project.

Is there any data on how many actual people still regularly use Twitter? I feel like you're assuming that that's where the users are, and maybe that's still true, but I don't know a single real life person who still actually uses it.

X has 600 million users, Mastodon 9-10 million. Even if you assume 2/3 of Xitter are bots, that's still 20x difference in reach. You should know that you and I are not "normal" for using Mastodon. A group of randomly picked people 9/10 will know of X/twitter, maybe 3/10 have heard of Mastodon.

weeps for the unserved nazis, racists, and pedophiles of X

Actually, I think in one point you are right: Don't phase out X. Because that would mean all the horrible people would go to all the alternatives and spread like viruses... So leave X there for honeypot of dumb users.

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