join hamas today
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Flippanarchycross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/mop/p/693038/join-hamas-today
Prob bc they're not Palestinian yeah? I'm sure you'd see lots of Palestinian libs if Gaza had the socio-material conditions for it (i.e not being bombed by Zionists every 5s).
They'd join Hamas the moment it came out they attacked and blamed leftists for everything going wrong for them.
That sounds like a very Hamas thing to argue
Have you considered sarcastic idiot?
Yes, and also self-deprecatingly sarcastic non-idiot 😁
non-idiot
nah my cat's in the other room right now
Well at least you're not going as far as to calling yourself a useLESS idiot 🤷😄
i know my use. feed the cat
They would join HAMAS to betray them giving insider information to the IDF.
Funny enough, that's exactly what a number of Palestinian liberals have actually done. It's one of the many levers of influence Israel has used to keep both Gaza and the West Bank politically chaotic and isolated.
Hamas itself is a Mossad asset lol
"Watch me tear down this casino by going inside and playing the slot machines!"
It worked in at least one Oceans movie.
We need to supply HAMAS with precision weapons and targeting systems so they can minimize civilian casualties.
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You're very welcome 😁
My imaginary numbers 😭
That's what I do around here: I distribute posts between communities solely to steal imaginary numbers from hard working and original posters such as yourself 👹
I knew it! You're taking jobs from hard-working reposters. You're worse than a scab.
Do you know how hard it was to time travel back to Oct 12, post a comment, screenshot, and hide it on an obscure anarchist forum for me to locate last night?
Do you know how hard it was to time travel back to Oct 12, post a comment, screenshot, and hide it on an obscure anarchist forum for me to locate last night?
Idunno, 4? 🤷
Hamas tortures people when they speak out against them.
While you joke around and pretend to support the Palestinian people, actual Palestinians are being tortured and killed by Hamas.
It is you who pretend to support Palestinians. Without Hamas Gaza would already be part of Israel . Hamas is the one who respond to Israel torturing , raping, killing, kicking west bankers from their homes . The Hamas members are orphans which their parents was ,killed of Israel. Hamas human right abuses against opposition do not strip them the right to fight it's occupiers otherwise you would reject all previous resistance groups.
You never condemned Israel who did at larger scale the atrocities Hamas committed as retaliation to occupation, you never condemned our trashy countries who been supporting Israel for decades providing them with weapons and diplomatic cover.
"Critical support to the right-wing theocratic fascist movement that tortures leftists on their leftist anti-colonialism struggle"
I am not a leftist. I am an anti colonialism and as a anti colonialism I support resistance groups legitimate act of resistances while condemning rhw war crimes they do. I only support holding any fighter who was involved in war crimes accountable after the end of occupation.
Or if a better resistance group is created I would completely reject Hamas
Hamas tortures people when they speak out against them.
As do the IOF. On an industrial scale.
I'm not endorsing the atrocities, but at least Hamas are committing them in the name of liberation as opposed to on behalf of the occupation forces of a fascist apartheid state.
While you joke around and pretend to support the Palestinian people, actual Palestinians are being tortured and killed by ~~Hamas.~~ IOF
(At least) equally true and much more relevant.
are committing them in the name of liberation
Brother, they themselves know they can't win AND they're also a Mossad asset. They only managed to do Oct. 7th because Netanyahu allowed it AND they expected the world to stop Israel after they inevitably responded with even more violence. They also torture and kill actual leftists. You CAN, in fact, not support the movement spearheaded by religious fascists started by their own enemies to undermine an actual worker's movement, even if their enemies are 20 times worse.
The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) are leftists and collaborate with Hamas . It is so idiotic to focus on Hamas first then Israel when it is Israel who want all Palestinians expulsed from their land . People do not support Hamas ideology they support exclusively there armed resistance for liberation. I am pretty sure if the occupation end most people will not want Hamas in power and would even support holding the remaining leadership accountable
That, my friends, is how you end up getting executed after you're done being useful. As an anarchist you should know firsthand about how collaborating with fascists, red or not, gets you nothing but a bullet to the back of the head and a mass grave.
Israel is the occupier yet your problem is with the imperfect resistance groups. Do you know that vietcong was also killing and torturing oponents would you have supported the occupiers the american terrorists?
It's not the fact they're imperfect, it's that fact that historically, ANY LEFTIST that collaborated with either stalinists or fascist resistance groups always, and I mean ALWAYS, ended up dead. You're essentially saying as a white first worlder that Palestinian leftists should just risk their own well being to ally with fascists that ARE GOING to kill them once they're no longer useful to the cause.
The fact is that hamas is the one who is replying to israel occupation if you don't have a nuanced view of resisting groups you are supporting the occupier
You CAN, in fact, not support the movement spearheaded by religious fascists started by their own enemies to undermine an actual worker's movement, even if their enemies are 20 times worse.
I am keenly aware of that, yes. Which is why I DON'T.
The closest I ever get to it is when pointing out to Zionists that them existing and committing fewer atrocities DOESN'T make the apartheid regime and its actions legitimate.
You don't need to endorse them or their actions to do that, so I don't.
Whataboutism. Whatever you say doesn't matter to the people Hamas is oppressing.
And really how has the violence of Hamas benefited the Palestinian people? Like at all?
Whataboutism.
The post is about the hypocrisy of Liberal Zionists. If anything is a whataboutism, it's dismissing that by pointing out the (irrelevant) issue of Hamas' atrocities.
Whatever you say doesn't matter to the people ~~Hamas~~ IOF is oppressing.
Fixed it for you again.
And really how has the violence of Hamas benefited the Palestinian people? Like at all?
Again, this isn't about whether or not the actions of Hamas are justified or effective. It's about Liberal hypocrisy.
So "liberal hypocrisy" is worse than torturing people?
Nope. Stop trying to spout strawmen and whataboutisms to distract from the crystal clear point you're willfully ignoring.
I'm supposed to ignore the fact that Hamas tortures people? I'm supposed to ignore the fact that Hamas has objectively made things horrible for the Palestinian people?
While you make jokes and memes, while Palestinians in the parts of Gaza Hamas still controls are being tortured. You don't care about Palestinians, you only care about conforming to meme culture.
Nobody said Hamas was perfect. But dont forget the main reason Hamas is classified by the west as a terrorist organisation is because that's how Israel likes it. That's why they installed them into power in the first place. It gives them carte blanche to murder the fuck out of them, while western allies turn a blind eye to the killing of more ~~terrorists~~brown people. If you think of Hamas as freedom fighters against a genocidal colonial occupier then things really start to take on a different perspective.
I'm supposed to ignore the fact that Hamas tortures people? I'm supposed to ignore the fact that Hamas has objectively made things horrible for the Palestinian people?
Nope.
You're not supposed to make every criticism of Liberal Zionists about how "Hamas is bad, mmkay?" either, though. That's known as whataboutism and deflection.
While you make jokes and memes, while Palestinians in the parts of Gaza Hamas still controls are being tortured.
Mostly by the fascist apartheid regime whose supporters I'm making fun of, though.
You don't care about Palestinians, you only care about conforming to meme culture.
What kind of baseless nonsense is that?
Methinks the Zionist apologist protests too much 🙄
Fun fact: "meme culture" has more sympathy for Palestinians (including even Hamas) than the fascist occupation forces because HUMANS do in general.
You don't have to "conform to meme culture" to ridicule Liberal Zionists, you just need a tiny smidgeon of awareness of what's happening in occupied Palestine and the most infinitesimal understanding of scale and balance of power.
