TelevisionI actually love the "watch free" channels on my TV. It's full of obscure stuff like 1970s gameshows, This Old House episodes, random old weird direct-to-video movies.
Pluto has two channels just fot Star Trek and TNG
Too late, I cancelled Netflix years ago.
Personally I cancelled both of these services. Services just got worse and cost more, I can't imagine a merger is going to make that situation any better. I have CBC and I kept Paramount because it was 50% off annually for black friday and I enjoy Star Trek. The rest I either find other means to watch or happily do without.
KTHNXBYE
Jokes on them, I already cancelled my Netflix and hbo accounts because of the rampant enshittification of both services.
What has Netflix enshittified? Ad supported viewing is a completely different tier and arguably they have provided even more value by bundling in mobile games that are completely ad and micro transaction free. Price increases don't even count as enshittification.
Is it irony to quote all the enshittification steps and then demonstrate you know nothing about enshittification by saying they're good things?
If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them. None of the extra shit has any value to my house, for instance.
I never implied they're good, I implied it's not enshittification. There's a difference.
If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them.
This doesn't even make sense because they were added to your account at no charge. That means they would actually have to decrease the price if you want to exclude them.
- The quality of writing/content
- Pumping anything and everything out leading to dropping shows
- the loss of some providers and franchises
- the tactics around sign in and users
- streaming quality
- adverts
These were standard and they compromised…unless pay more. They are still making money. They can still afford to employ talent and pay wages. They can still choose to be fair to their employees and customers. But no. Give less, remove features, raise prices is the approach they repeatedly take.
If I bought a dvd its didn’t come with a ban on sharing it. They have conditioned lots to think this is acceptable. It’s not you are the customer. You give them money and it’s still not enough for them.
Netflix doesn't really control the content that other creators allow on their service, so point 3 is moot
They kind of did though. When Netflix decided to produce their own content, studios understood that Netflix would prioritize it's own content in the algorithm so they all scrambled to make their own platforms.
If Netflix had been content staying a distributor, we'd all still have everything available all on the one app.
Content disappearing was an issue before they started making their own. Netflix's initial popularity is why everyone decided to make their own service.
It does if you inflate the price of the base tier, then add a new lower tier at the old price. With ads.
Or if you have less content and charge more.
Or if you stop making content with creatives having control and instead make it based on producer led content.
Or if you start changing up the cover art of different content and sprinkle it in different categories to give the appearance of more content.
Or if you claim to be about freedom of speech and not judging content based on being offensive or controversial, but then fire workers that you feel are offensive or controversial.
Or if you start buying your competition with the intention of having less competition.
It does if you inflate the price of the base tier, then add a new lower tier at the old price. With ads.
That's not enshittification that's a price increase. They're not obligated to keep the same price point forever.
Or if you have less content and charge more.
Not enshittification because that's literally how the industry works. Now imagine they have literally all the content, won't you be saying it's a MONOPOLY, KILL THEM ASAP?
Or if you stop making content with creatives having control and instead make it based on producer led content.
Not enshittification.
Or if you start changing up the cover art of different content and sprinkle it in different categories to give the appearance of more content.
Wow person learns how algorithms and categories work. What a revelation.
Or if you claim to be about freedom of speech and not judging content based on being offensive or controversial, but then fire workers that you feel are offensive or controversial.
Not enshittification.
Or if you start buying your competition with the intention of having less competition.
Didn't you just say above you wanted more content?
This is just people crying about something they don't like. If you don't want to use the service don't use it.
Whoa are you a bot or something? There's a proper disconnect from reality in your comments.
Idk. All those things deffo sound more shitty to me.
What has Netflix enshittified?
Their content.
I'm not sure that's really enshittification. It's not so much a way to deteriorate the service to make money as it is an attempt to accommodate the habits of the viewers. I totally agree that we're getting super bad content that's only mildly entertaining if you're doing 2-3 other things while watching, but that's the demographic they believe they have.
They consider their product to be "Second Screen," which mean it is meant to be consumed while you are on your phone. Matt Damon recently talked about the rules of making a Netflix video, and one of them is that you have to repeat your plot objective several times, so the people who are "watching" while on their phones will get it.
They also mandate the use of certain cameras and lenses and other equipment, to ensure that their productions have a similar look across the platform.
They have lots of other rules that compromise quality and artistic integrity in favor of branding and profit.
That all counts as enshittification to me. It sure isn't good for the future of film as an art form.
Also, enshittification is not in spell check.
Every broadcaster and platform has a list of approved cameras, and always has done. That isn’t enshittification, that’s ensuring technical quality.
As to a house style, again that is longstanding and common. ABC, for example, favours pastel colours for sets and costume. This goes back to Technicolor and their visual control from the 1930s. Nothing new.
I do, because historically I want to support the people making content I love.
However, the distribution channels and situation is nearing abysmal quality while gobbling up more and more money. So long term... I dunno... I only maintain 2-3 streaming services at a time, and one is CBC, which I won't be dropping.
This was exactly the way I thought of my spending habits for a long time. Then a few years ago, Netflix prohibited password sharing, a soft feature they had specifically encouraged in the past, with the explicit purpose of desperately generating additional revenue as other growth streams plateaued. When most users just kind of accepted it, the dam broke and all the other services followed suit.
That was the final straw for me, on top of the proliferation of dedicated per-studio services, price hikes, and pricing tiers that created needless feature lock-outs. As a consumer I get dicked around in every sector in which I'm forced to participate, but this is one sector where I have an option to withdraw from the dicking.
However the netflix share went up up up after the change cause they made more money because people kept buying their service anyways. We tend to live so much in a bubble, i cancelled too, but people accept too much shit.
that's the fun part, basically none of the money you pay actually goes to the people who made the thing.
like 95-100% of the money that the crew of a movie or TV show makes is paid to them during production. There might be a handful of crew, typically writers, actors, and directors who get residuals, but that's typically a very small fraction of the total amount they got paid.
Your money goes to the studio who produced the film/show in order to recoup their investment. and in my experience, the studio doesn't actually give a shit about the creatives who made the thing you love. They'll get rid of them for someone cheaper at the first opportunity, and a lot of them are trying to get rid of them for AI right now.
Netflix don’t do residuals.
This 100%.
It has been a weird journey for me, from "Netflix is elevating all of these great comedies!" To Netflix is buying competitors to keep every creator vulnerable.
That said, Dropout, Nebula and Curiosity Stream all seem pretty ethical toward creators. I think the combination of all three costs less than Netflix. (Though I've been on the Netflix boycott for awhile now.)
Also, I can't get over Dropout's ad series encouraging users to share a password to let someone try DropOut. Boss move.
I have a budget I set and I spend across a couple creatives and media companies, but they are direct payments tonth creatives themselves. I have no issues paying for people to create works.
But such a microscopic portion of any streaming service payment, coupled with deeply toxic, dark patterned business models, not to mention how the business structure has distorted the model for creative works.
I have views on property rights that I know aren't the most popular on a dot world or even some of the more radical instances. I know a few share it, but I know most don't, but I genuinely don't believe in copyright.
Copyright (and patent law) is deeply flawed and has been abused far beyond its original intent.
I would very much like reform.
I only maintain 2-3 streaming services at a time
This is the way. Unless their prices fall of a cliff, I'll only ever be doing 1-2 services at a time. There's always plenty to get caught up on
Well I’m certainly not, ya ding dong!
Weird statement to make considering we can cancel at any time. I did years ago.
I fucking hate this capitalist, anti-consumer hellscape. I stopped watching Netflix because I loathe their “multi-screen writing” policy. I don’t want my dollar supporting that and if we roll all the services into one voting with your wallet becomes practically impossible.
Yo Ho Ho!
That was always an option...
Star Trek has left Netflix, so what is it even for now?
That's exactly when I canceled.
I love watching the free market regulate itself.
Weird to be on the same page as the CEO of Netflix. Today I'll think on how you really never know how much you have in common with others.
They are just like us, they are born, they die, they pay taxes…oh wait.
Please do read that as sarcasm. These turdlike meat bags (I won’t call them human) just view others are numbers. ‘Enough squeezed humans/others/numbers’ means a bigger yacht and more bragging power at the country club.
They need shaming at worst, dragging out in the street is better
I can't resist the humour inherent to the fact that they refuse to pay tax, and also desperately are seeking immortality. Death and taxes are the quintessential unavoidable things! They are tilting at a windmill, and they want to cast us as their Rozinante.
Way ahead on this one.
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