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196::: spoiler alt text A drawing of a person laying on the ground, seen from the side. There is text on the image, "We still talk about you". Deep in the ground, there is the Adobe Flash logo. :::
Flash was very influential to my life surprisingly
type:swf does however bring up around 8.5k results on e621.
Oh boy, here I go again with Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. Early 2000s Flash content was sick!
I'm so glad it's dead and buried. The pain that shit piece of software caused me trying to get it set up on Linux to watch YouTube back in the day. I broke multiple installs over this shit. Also anything from Adobe I consider malware.
In it's heyday nerds like us fucking hated it because it was a proprietary plugin that broke sites on an otherwise open web. We remember it fondly because it made animation accessible for young creatives. In Winter 08/09 I was interning on the first season of Ugly Americans and they were still animating in an old version of Flash MX, even though like CS6 was out by that point. Today though there are creative apps where you can still do Flash-style vector animation, and the modern internet has no problem serving up rendered videos of the final output without the need for a plugin.
We remember it fondly because it made animation accessible for young creatives
And simple games, too. But yes, I agree with you; what people remember fondly isn't Flash itself, it's what it enabled.
And simple games
...and a Major Slovakian bank Tatra Banka used it for internet banking until 2019.
i think you're right. the technology itself was arguably garbage, i've heard from many people i have no reason to distruss that it was a security nightmare, and i don't especially miss going on any random website and seeing "you need to install the adobe flash player extension!"
still, the modern web feels different. even if HTML5 and WASM can do everything flash could and then some, it's not the same... you don't really see websites filled with amateur web games anymore.
I sure as fuck don't.
Here is an open source multiplatform flash engine/player written in Rust;
https://ruffle.rs/
https://flathub.org/en/apps/rs.ruffle.Ruffle
Badger badger badger
MUSHROOM MUSHROOM!!!
Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake! Snaaaaaaaaake!
Radiskull & Devil Doll
Who hackers? Zero day exploiters? You still have PDF for that
Hbomb did a video on flash once, I think...
today adobe announced they are killing adobe animate, which was one of the last remnants of flash. instead of making it open-source, or just leaving it alone, they are stopping updates in march this year, and making the program completely unuseable next year.
i'm not gonna dwell on the usual platitudes about how evil adobe is. you've heard them before and you'll hear them again. but, yea 🙃
Hbomberguy sighs as he adds another 30 minutes of runtime to his next video.
And 5 more years until it gets released I reckon
Based on his production time vs video lent length, next one will release in around a bazillion years.
I wish he would plagiarize and get 3 videos every week
I hope people put in the effort to patch out whatever time bombs Adobe puts into it like people did with Flash player.
Although unlike with Flash player, there's probably not going to be a China version that continues to produce updates for it.
There's also an open source runtime for flash now, to. Ruffle is super neat
Here are the links:
https://ruffle.rs/
https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle
https://flathub.org/en/apps/rs.ruffle.Ruffle
i’m not gonna dwell on the usual platitudes about how evil adobe is.
I never talk about Flash. I do, however, talk about how evil adobe is.
Throwback to shockwave
Macromedia Flash Player
ShockWave was a similar software platform for interactive media that was initially a competitor with Flash until it was acquired by Macromedia.
I take it the technology was shit, but damn, people made awesome things with it
Don't let the dream die, install Flashpoint today!
I discovered flashpoint a couple months ago. It works great even in Linux. I love to play some old Flash games.
Related question: Does the game "Mike Shadow: I paid for it" work for you on Linux? It doesn't for me, except for the Infinite Cash Hack version.
Just curious because I discovered this game not working a couple days ago, will maybe report it as a bug.
https://ruffle.rs/
First flash, then even Flipnote… 😞
Do we? I’m a web dev and I haven’t talked about Flash in years.
You are talking about it now .
Correct. And I haven’t talked about it in years.
You can say it today, but not tomorrow.
I mean, since we’re talking about it, I am so happy that Flash is dead. It was an absolute nightmare for support, accessibility, security, and open source code. It wasn’t quite as bad as ActiveX, but it was pretty close. Let’s all collectively agree to never implement any technology like Flash into the browser again.
Let me explain the open source code part. Before GCC, C compilers were closed source and expensive. This meant that if you wanted to work on an open source project that was written in C, you had to buy a compiler. That’s the same as Flash. There were open source Flash players, but as far as I know, there were no open source Flash compilers. Just Macromedia/Adobe. So anything open source written in Flash/ActionScript was only accessible to people who could afford the software license. That sucks.
Speaking of accessible, Flash was not. If you were browsing the web with a screen reader, the vast majority of Flash content was completely walled off from you. The accessibility implementation in Flash had to be specifically coded for, unlike HTML, which is relatively accessible by default.
For a while, Flash was the way people embedded video into web pages. This was neat, but again, a nightmare to work on. Flash players required very specific video encodings, so you’d likely have to transcode the video to embed it or at least remux it, and for a while, that wasn’t free. It also meant that a different piece of software was requesting the video as that which requested the page. This could cause some very difficult to track bugs.
Not all systems supported Flash, because why the fuck would Adobe give a shit about Unix? At least there was Linux support for the player, but if you wanted to make Flash content, your choices were Windows or Mac.
Last, but not least, Flash refused to die for a long time, which ultimately held back the industry. For almost a decade, it was very common to have to mux two copies of the exact same streams, just for people who were still clinging to Internet Explorer and Flash. People were really pissed off when websites stopped working when browsers abandoned Flash, but that was the fault of naive web devs who built their sites in a faulty, insecure technology. They didn’t get the blame. The browsers got the blame. And a lot of them kept Flash around well after its development had been discontinued, just for that reason.
Good riddance, Flash.
Strangely we really do. Nothing like it.
Rip Bloons TD
WASM intensifies
