I was just arguing with my mom about this and she said it's good people are losing the benefits because she knows people don't need SNAP, despite needing them herself.

She then went on to name a few people who receive $800 for their 5 kids and simply sell the card to someone else to get cash for drugs and ask me how to solve that problem.

Reporting the abuse it wasn't an option.

perhaps worth pointing out too… focusing on the minimal abuse as a reason the whole program should be cut is very american. i think the rest of the world the attitude is much more that a thing is necessary and abuse is a cost of doing business (like shoplifting: just because there’s some shoplifting doesn’t mean you close the whole store)… it’s very much nobody “undeserving” should get rewarded before people need help

PPP got abused too but for some reason they never bitch about that

Yeah that sounds about like the line of reasoning I'd expect from conservatives in my family. The problem is that you gave them something at all. They made you a sucker. Stop helping people. etc.

They'd just terminate the thought there, and not move on to wonder if it could it be some other problem the system could help them with other than today's cart of groceries. My goodness, they might accidentally save a life and not even know it!

Why is she blinking in a repeating pattern? 😐😐😐 😑😑😑 😐😐😐

Yeah so Vance's wife did that in a video too. She sending out morse code or is it a tactic to try to look serious. Idk. It's weird.

Shes right. They should have made a better choice in who to vote for.

GOP strategist tells Americans about to lose food assistance to make ‘better choices’

Like voting.

Yeah, but you often find the people who need the help are least inclined to vote for it.

I remember a story from a few years ago, some article about poverty. A disabled guy from Liverpool, unable to work, his 12 year old daughter was having to collect from the food bank for him, no heating. "I voted for the Conservatives, I just think they're best for the country", he said, presumably while applying his clown make-up.

This tbh

Yeah like choose to find places that will hire you rather than ones that say they went with someone else. Duh.

‘ years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.’

Lindy Li was a part of Harris’s campaign. Within the time period of them losing the election -> the inauguration she was already a part of Trumps team.

She has zero credibility and is just a token former Democrat for the GOP to parade around. Disgusting.

This is basically politics. She knew that republicans could win. So she jumped ship. At the end it's the fault of the voters.

I mean, that's a very good demonstration on the common values of these supposedly different groups. Their class solidarity is strong.

No, it's a good demonstration on their common lack of values. They have no class solidarity and will turn on anyone who has helped them in the past if they think they'll get ahead.

Dude, you can't be satisfied by bites of moral superiority, it isn't useful to you. Class solidarity doesn't mean that they have solidarity with you because they strive for unity or whatever, it means that they have solidarity with people in the same socioeconomic class as themselves. Yes, they are self-interested and they exclude people who are not in their class from positions of power within the state. They correctly identify that most Americans have been neglected functional knowledge on how their system works -- both literally as in the state and philosophically/sociologically as in how ideas work and why certain people subscribe to certain values -- and make use of a "two-party" system to occlude their common interest in capital and hegemony. Democrats and Republicans do not differ on fundamental principles of how society should work, and they share those principles with anyone alive who hoards wealth because they all are in a class that is constructed through wealth hoarding, that's the solidarity.

That someone can work for either party without missing a step demonstrates that there is not a fundamental difference between the two in a very funny way.

No u.

Here is a better choices:

  1. don't vote for these Nazi fucks

That's the better choice.

This was my TED talk

Another clueless twat who thinks those decisions can be anything other than starvation.

I'm surprised Maga hasn't deported her yet

Lindy Li, huh?

I'm gonna remember that name when I have nothing else to lose.

She has been added to the Menu.

I see lots of people on Lemmy without much compassion for the people on the other team. I don't see how both teams lacking compassion will fix this shit stain of a situation.

they reap what they sow. Why should I feel bad for them getting what they asked for?

What compassion would you like to see?

Food ought to be a human right and that extends to people who voted for an administration that's trying to make that worse than it already is.

Food is a human right. I still have no compassion for people who would rather see me starving or dead...

I can hold no compassion for people and still agree that they deserve to live. I'm not callous.

Let me say it louder for the people that need to hear it.

Everyone gets a plate but not everyone will have a place at the table.

I’m empathetic about their plight, but I feel no compassion. I’m sure the assholes who voted for the leopard and then got bit by the leopard are in a shitty situation. I hope things work out for them. I hope they don’t suffer too much, but I won’t lift a finger to help them.

I’d say I’m almost the opposite as you? I guess not really.

I hope they do get bit, I hope it kinda sucks, but I absolutely will lift a finger to help them.

"He's starving the handouts for millions of illegal aliens; why are we putting them first when we have so many Americans – millions of Americans – suffering on the streets? Why are we prioritizing illegals? That is a question that Democrats need to answer.”

Erm....you aren't helping the Americans either lady

“Just get richer parents if you wanna eat, kiddo. What’s wrong with you?”

These fucking commie leftists just want handouts from MY TAXES (if i paid taxes). Grease soaked cardboard is edible, and there is nothing in the bible about cannibalism, Clarisse...

Yep. Make better choices at the ballot box. Unimpressed with your options in the ballot box? Make better choices in the primaries.

And most of all: go and fucking vote. Every time. In every ballot.

We really need multiple systems built out to inform people of when votes are happening that way there are no excuses and to make sure people get them

You think that people who use public assistance will be allowed to vote? Really?

Of course they will, so long as they stay voting for the GOP. The uneducated are one of their strongest voting blocs

Hey hungry people who cannot afford food, look at my fancy new ballroom that you paid for!

-tRump, effectively.

Billionaires always out there telling people to have more kids. Billionaires out there always trying to defund and destroy everything that helps kids. Billionaires are always out there grifting all the tax money and getting the politicians they own to destroy social safety nets. Billionaires always out there raping kids. Billionaires always out there jacking up the prices on food, water, utilities, healthcare and housing. Billionaires always out there refusing to pay a wage that allows people to survive in their rigged system. Maybe the better choice we should make is not having billionaires.

Don't forget the connection between Billionaries and child sex traffic (ie. Epstein Files).

Maybe that's the reason they want more impoverished childs around.

Easier targets.

I know the USA's media landscape is extremely fucked but still, I'm amazed "starving socialist beasbeasts" isn't called out for the raving lunacy that it is.

Your president is the king of avoiding personal responsibility, Lindy. Shut the fuck up.

Maybe if they WANTED to Eat they Shouldn't have Voted for the Party who Promised to Take Away Their Food so they can Protect Pedophiles INSTEAD!

-Republicans who will Continue to Vote Republican!

Lindy Li is so FOCKING insane and desperate for anyone to like to her. She was a Dem fundraiser for years, and after realizing that just working in the party wasn't going to get her accepted as a candidate to get into office (because of her insanity), she switched to this ultra-MAGA psycho BS she's spouting today.

It's attention whoring at its lowest in order to try and get into office anyway she can. She's not well liked enough due to her clear mental instability, so she thinks hating on whomever the "other side" is will curry enough favor to get a fast track to...something.

Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.

Grifting clear as day

well there you go. Sounds like she made some bad life choices.

And to be fair, she'll probably go far. Look at Steven Cheung. The more incompetent, foul-mouthed, and insane you are the more they want you out front.

They're the type of nonwhite who believe they're "the good ones" and will be accepted if they try hard enough. They desperately wish they were born white. They may not realize it but they will never be fully accepted.

Somehow I dbout MAGAs plan to vote for an Asian woman no matter how crazed and on their level she is. Only chance she's got is though Trump directly, but she's not white note plastic enough to make it on that level

Au contraire! A boob job, bleach blonde, some lip filler is exactly the kind of resumé dynamite the MAGA crowd goes for. $4000 and a handy-j to Lewandowski and CHOO CHOOO she’s on the grifting express.

FUCKING... this is the god damned grown up internet where you can fucking swear all the fuck day long. This self censoring shit can stay on god damned reddit and youtube.

Is for phonetic effect. Not being shy.

It's their fucking business, not yours.

Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.

Does anyone know of any examples of politicians swinging hard in the opposite direction? I’m not talking about things like the Lincoln project or changes made up to age 25 or so, but actual significant leftward movement from adult politicians.

Elizabeth Warren was a Republican who thought people used bankruptcy as a means of escaping personal liability.

Warren later recalled that she had begun her research believing that most people filing for bankruptcy were either working the system or had been irresponsible in incurring debts, but that she concluded that such abuse was in fact rare and that the legal framework for bankruptcy was poorly designed, describing the way the research challenged her fundamental beliefs as "worse than disillusionment" and "like being shocked at a deep-down level".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren

It was after that Elizabeth Warren moved to become more progressive about how bankruptcy laws and financial regulations.

Widely regarded as a progressive, she was previously a registered Republican, changing her registration to Democrat in 1996. According to Warren, in the six presidential elections she voted in before 1996, she cast her ballot for just one GOP nominee—Gerald Ford in 1976. Her conservatism at the time was not rooted in social issues like abortion or gay rights, but rather on economic policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Elizabeth_Warren

Ooh, thank you! I may wish she were further left, but I don’t doubt that she earnestly believes in the views she says she holds, which was what I was wondering.

You can never trust her again. She doesn't believe in ideology, she just wants power and is willing to go to any side and any length to get what she feels entitled to.

Don’t worry, that’s not why I’m asking. No, she’s a rat forever.

I just wonder if it’s always in this direction. My suspicion is that it tends to flow from more discerning parties to less discerning parties, and in the US right now, the republicans are the least discerning of the national parties. I could see people moving from actual leftist parties to the greens (in the places where the greens are either liberal or controlled opposition) in other countries, I’m not sure if they’re leftist in some countries), but that’s still a rightward move.

I think Graham Platner, if you take his word for what is in his past and present political mindsets, would be an example of a right-to-left swing, but not done as a politician. Shaun on YouTube is another one that comes to mind potentially, depending on how old he is for whether that qualifies as an under age 25. In the US at least, we don't really have a strong left wing to draw in people looking for a change, so most of those conversions are happening less in the public sphere and more in corners of the internet, where it hasn't been enshittified to ensure even those spaces are dominated by tight wing narratives

That’s part of why I’m asking- the vast majority of leftists I know grew up in right wing or centrist circles and moved left on their own, but I don’t know if there are politicians who really reflect that.

Actually, Graham Platner is very relevant and I’m interested in whether people trust him enough to elect him and whether he stays true to the principles he ran on.

If she won the congressional bid, she'd been sold out quicker than Fetterman.

Does anyone know of any examples of politicians swinging hard in the opposite direction?

I just learned today that Hitler was a lefty in his early days. True story.

He was always anti-Semitic though. That wasn't unusual for the times however.

Someone describing themselves as a tree hugging progressive railing against supporting society's most vulnerable can go and fuck themselves with a fishing rod though.

You'd be looking at some early 20th century interpretations of leftism though, which is an important nuance. Lenin was a member of the Russian Social Democrats, but most people probably wouldn't attribute his legacy to Social Democracy.

Yeah very true. It all has to be viewed through the ol' historic lens.

Mussolini too, hence "Benito's earlier work". Not sure it makes much of difference considering the end result.

They can make a better choice this Tuesday (and, more importantly, in the mid-terms next year)

Is the choice to not vote Republican again? Because yes, I agree with the better choices argument there.

Lmao based on the people in my area on food stamps nope they're just going to keep voting for these fuckers

Those that voted for republicans or didn't vote, I agree.

Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.

This person sounds like a grifter and has now found a more receptive audience.

So no morals or ethics at all. Ok got it.

That or some unfortunate mental health issues.

Oh everything I believed? Totally the opposite now. Hashtag stable genius.

Like living in a better country maybe

Have you tried not being poor?

Sorry, too busy trying to not be disabled

Reminds me of this song

I expected the one from Inside https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oDQXFNWuZj8&pp=ygUMaW5zaWRlIHNvY2tv

“I have a very hard time believing that the 42 million people who are on SNAP all qualify,” Li said, speaking on Newsmax. “Someone on Newsmax said last night [that] maybe people should start making better choices so they don't have to rely on the government day in and day out. What happened to personal responsibility? It used to be an American ideal!”

“We have to be very clear what's happening here: they built a dependency empire, and it is crumbling right now! And President Trump isn't starving kids – he's starving socialist beasts,” Li said.

“He's starving the handouts for millions of illegal aliens; why are we putting them first when we have so many Americans – millions of Americans – suffering on the streets? Why are we prioritizing illegals? That is a question that Democrats need to answer.”

Wow! What a fucking soul-less bitch!

If I was able to become king I would levy 2000% taxes on news corporations that openly allow misinformation to be spread on their platform. I am so sick of this absolute lying they allow on the “news”. Illegal immigrants DONT QUALIFY FOR SNAP, WIC, OR MEDICARE/MEDICAID.

Let's stop pretending like MAGA republicans are upset about the state of SNAP. They get to destroy a program that they already wanted to destroy and get to try and pin the blame on Democrats in the process. It's a win win for them.

Who’s pretending? We all know they hate America.

“Republican strategist”……

😂

They're a bunch of scum-sucking motherless goats, but strategically, they're running rings around the Democratic Party. Having a fucking insane strategy still beats having no strategy.

woman of color serving as strategist for the racist party... seems like she could make better choices.

I saw her in many debates. She is very dumb

This tracks because the GOP is the party of unqualified illtempered pedo loving dipshits.. They target the vulnerable because they cherish them as delicacies. Then they blame the victim to assuage their atrophying pangs of guilt about how selfish and selfserving they've become in life and everything.

Someone should starve this gop strategist and see how loyal they stay.

Wow. She probably never had to work in her lifetime...

Yzma: "It is none of MY concern whether your family has...what was it again?" Peasant: "Uhh, food?" Yzma: "HAH! You really should have thought of that before you became peasants!"

Hopefully all the people that voted Republican make a better choice next time and vote all the Confederates out.

How fucking stupid does a person of color have to be, to be a fucking republikkklan? She may be "one of the good ones" now, like Stephen Fucking Cheung, but they will be rejected and turned upon when other prey are scarce. Deservedly.

For once I agree. We need to never let republicans anywhere near power ever again. Our country made terrible choices there

Lindi li needs to have some empathy slapped into her with a shovel.

Or instead a shovel maybe with a chair. To the face.

Hateful ghoul

Choices like "GOP strategists should be ignored by everyone". This is the nice version.

They call it the American dream but always, always forget that the math just doesn't work if everyone fulfils it. This so-called American dream fundamentally requires that the other 99 get trampled under. But they keep on selling the same rhetoric, and Americans fall for it, again and again and again and again

I'm not American, but how do you spell "eat shit"? I want every GOP voter to "eat shit", cause the plague is spreading even to my longitudes. Help me out, thanks in advance.

Eat the rich

Compost them and grow healthy mushrooms.

Oh okay.

I want to choose what family to be born in, but apparently I can't.

It's America's team game to make regular humans revolt so they can make changes to our slave terms and conditions.

Better choices like killing the people who put them there?

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