If anyone's feeling pretty hopeless about finding this out for the first time, I recommend this documentary about the cartoon frog's creator suing Alex Jones and trying to take back his ownership over Pepe from the white power weirdos. It's very uplifting and the artist is a pretty likable guy.

I instantly dislike the guy.

Probably had to do with the country copyright laws :/ I had personal videos blocked because they used music that in over country was free to use and in others wasn’t… or maybe he hates you in particular 🤷‍♀️

Oh, thanks for sharing this experience, because that makes totally sense to me. The error message is kind of misleading and gave me the impression the blocking was on purpose.

Documentary guy is a good guy after all.

Fuck Youtube and all the music industry.

Check if any invidious instance can play it, or NewPipe/PipePipe on android

Thank you my friend, what a good suggestion. Next thing would be to just use archive.org. However, for this I would need some help.

If you're on desktop/laptop, FreeTube works pretty well too (has invidious functionality built in)

Dang I didn't know users did that on YouTube. I guess I can't say I blame you, it's a shitty thing to do

They don’t. It’s regional restriction.

Oh. That is what I used to assume. Was Zr0 just messing with me?

No, Zr0 made an uninformed assumption as well.

I KNOW RIGHT???

And people were like "oh the killer carved UWU what's this and Helldivers 2 memes on his bullets, that's common in Groyper circles"

Bro are you talking aboutttttt, what do you mean????
I just find it absurd how these niche-in-a-niche-in-a-niche communities develop and how seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles inside, it reaches a point where I'm just like dude, our lizard brains can't handle the internet. We just weren't wired to work like this, there's no way

I really, truly, with all of my being, feel that we are reaching the end limits of what the human mind is currently able to contend with. We are so overstimulated it's insane. We literally need to evolve our physical bodies as a species to continue living as we are or we will literally die.

Or maybe just not go on the internet so much?

Most people are addicted. It's like you are saying "Just stop smoking cigarettes so often"

That's a more reasonable suggestion than "evolve more lungs"

With cigarettes, we recognized that harm that they did and in response developed a series of regulations about where they could be used, who could use them when, how they could be advertised, warning labels that had to be applied, and taxes on them to discourage use and offset the societal harm. As result we get this:

...and this...

The internet is a tricky one on account of it absolutely having crossover with the first amendment, but there's got to be a conversation about its effect on mental health and what if anything can be done in response.

Personally I am in favor of regulating the internet but the potential censorship concerns are a serious issue with actually doing it

now do meat and the leading causes of human death

I'm not even sure anymore what this analogy is about but 🤣

exactly, hence why I will always promote research into lung alternatives that can better handle particulate matter and are easily replaceable

There is no limit. Things are really really bad? They can always get worse. Rock bottom is a flawed analogy.

The drill is mightier than the rock

Sorry man, but it's going to get worse before it gets better.

And I have no idea if it's ever getting better

I don't even want to bring up brain chips, there's plenty of people who already think they have them. Imagine the psychosis.

It's beautiful, isn't it?

I saw someone who described the murder as a shitpost and that scarily makes sense.

The world's first shitpost murder. Insane.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/46016750

Here's the link.

I'm a grown-ass, nearly 40 year-old family man, and I fucking know what "uwu" is. These idiots think they're "exposing the conspiracy", when in reality anyone who has spent more than 4 seconds researching any meme would immediately recognize it.

It wasn't even "uwu" meme

It was the "OwO what's this?" Meme. Which makes it even weirder/funnier/messed up

What's the difference? ELIA5 please, I don't know if I have time to go down this rabbit hole myself.

One is a generic emoticon, while "OwO what's this?" is an (in)famous meme from the furry fandom

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/notices-bulge-owo-whats-this

I still don't understand, but I learned one thing, when a meme seems to do not have a meaning, it's fascists crap.

Those guys always miss humor totally.

Same difference. It's used interchangeably.

eh, not really.

one is more a "uwu sowwy" the other is surprised/shocked/curious expression

It's this face. Like :) is a smile and xD is supposed to be somebody laughing so hard their eyes have squinted shut.

owo is the same face, but the eyes are open.

Edit: I have misread. You do understand it lmao

I always equated "XD" with Eric Cartman 😂

Edit: I have misread. You do understand it lmao

No worries!

I can't even parse that as a face

seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles

My favorite thing is the neonazis wearing pleated khakis. Like, the only item of clothing even nerdier than that is lederhosen.

My nephew is being sent to an evangelical school whose uniform is khakis and a choice of a red or blue polo shirt. Want to guess which color is social suicide?

Im no longer talking to that part of my family.

Do they all look like they work at Target?

No, these are expensive khakis.

If this is gonna be a One Piece pirate flag kinda future, does that mean we can wear sailor slops?

We can only hope.

Pirates are in this year

I learned about the Groyper wars recently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

Fuck, we invent some useless shit. I wonder what'll be around in 50 years? Tea cosy wars? A disdain for people with attached ear lobes? A religion that proclaims the colour yellow to be heresy?

Careful what you say about yellow or they might come for you next.

THERE IS ONLY green

As a person with deuteranopia, I find your assertion offensive. Next you'll be saying purple is a real colour that totally exists.

purple

Ayyyyy get out of here with that kind of language, that is so goddamn offensive.

You have angered the Roman Emperor prepare to lose your penis. If you are not in possession of a penis one will be assigned to you.

Only in our dreams, brother/sister/NB sibling!

... gurple? green-purple?

Or....does it all more or less come across as something like brown?

Or gray?

Green is not a creative color

Don't hug me I'm scared reference for anyone wondering

Can there be green without yellow?

Mlem served up some fabulous irony on this comment thread!

You overestimate progress in the field of bigotry. In 50 years they will hate (in no particular order) people who are:

  • black
  • brown
  • jews
  • asians
  • gay (as umbrella term, come at me lesbians)
  • genderfreaks (saying it as a genderfreak)
  • overwheight
  • neurodivergent
  • religious minority
  • homeless

So, pretty much the same as 50 years ago

Targeting Charlie Kirk

What the fuck?! Seems pretty relevant to look into re: the past week but no let’s blame it on leftists

It is very relevant yeah. They hated Kirk, and it very well may be that the shooter was a groyper

Fuentes himself was almost murdered last December by a guy who killed three other people and two dogs that day and ended up getting killed by the police. He went there specifically for Fuentes but I don't think it was some foot soldier following orders. No idea if the guy was on the left but I kinda don't really think he was.

Even though it is a well written, informative and comprehensive article, I still feel like I am losing braincells reading it. It is so incredibly stupid what some humans stoop to.

Same. At one point I found myself skimming words without taking them in and I had to stop.

I did learn one important thing from all of this though - there are more fractures and divisions among the far right than there appears. Ever-smaller factions fighting amongst each other is better than one coherent group fighting the rest of us.

The right always fights. It's why fascist regimes eventually collapse. They eat their own.

Thanks. Also interesting to read about the origin of Pepe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_the_Frog

My one consolation over finding out about this whole fight between different groups of fascists (besides the fact that the fascists are fighting each other, that's always a net positive) is that I can refer to it as gang violence.

Kirk was killed in a turf war between his gang and a rival gang immediately after trying to downplay mass shootings by asking "with or without gang violence?"

Just when I thought it couldn't get any more ironic

Wasn't he saying something about "gang violence" literally the moment he got shot?

His literal last words before being shot were answering the question of if he knew how many shootings there have been in the past 10 years (after blaming them on trans people one question before) with, "With or without gang violence?" Not even a second later he had a fountain of blood spurting from his neck.

Yes you can. But nobody else will, especially not those in power, because we live in an extremely racist "culture."

Of course they won't, but you can rage bait conservatives super hard with it by twisting every racist thing they say about black people being gang-bangers back on them.

I didn't even know about the Groypers till Charlie Kirk was killed by one.

I only knew Nick Fuentes as "That guy who tried to sue Antifa" and later "The Right Winger who disavowed Trump in 2024"

Apparently there's controversy about him not "really" being an Incel because he had a girlfriend in high school, and he believes anything outside of being celibate is gay, because being affectionate with a woman is unmanly.... and I'm like...

"This is too much even for me."

I didn't even know about Charlie Kirk until Charlie Kirk was killed by a groyper. I knew there was some rightwing crank being mocked for having a tiny face on a huge head, but that was it. My main reaction after the shooting was "damn, that really is a tiny face".

Lol exactly the same here

He was the splitting image of the default Mii character.

They had to go for the neck because the face was too small a target.

Wait'll you hear about that time Fuentes accidentally streamed himself watching gay porn. Or his date with a catboy!

Go on

Lots of info on Nick can be found on his RationalWiki entry. See the "Haggard's Law" section for info and links to sources about the things I mentioned.

I'm sorry to ask, but is there a source that isn't Rational Wiki?

No no, I shouldn't let my own issues with the site get in the way of good faith reporting. I'll have a look at this when I can

There are a lot of sources. Try the following search engine queries:

  • Nick Fuentes streams gay porn

  • Nick Fuentes Catboy Date

Nick Fuentes Catboy Date

That sounds like name of a softcore visual novel on Steam.

I know him as "that MAGA loser who's a fiercly proud incel and got caught with tabs of gay porn open on a stream".

But to be honest I thought he had completely vanished into insignificance over the last 5 years. Sadly this appears incorrect.

That would be volcel not incel. Can't be involuntary if you want it.

From what I'm gathering, it seems like one group is more "traditionally" American racism... And the other group is more like WW2 Nazi racists?

Either way, they're racists and not worth the oxygen they're consuming.

Can I just continue to have incredible distain for all racism? Because I'd hate to be branded as a sympathizer to either group. They both sound horrible.

The only surprising thing to me here is that racists hate eachother enough for this level of violence. I don't necessarily consider that a bad thing, I just thought they would... I dunno, bond over their mutual hatred of other races, rather than fight eachother over who is more racist.

... Not that I'm complaining. Having racists kill other racists makes it easier to fight against the groups that remain. Both groups of racists deserve to be put down. Not that I have the ability, capability, opportunity nor motivation to do that work myself..... I'm just not going to complain when one group kills the other, and the first group ends up in jail for life because of it. Honestly, that's an absolute win IMO.

Edgelords that treat their racism and violence as fuel for shitposts

vs.

Traditional "Brick and mortar and nooses" racists

Potato, potato.

Authoritarians, which are not unrelated to racism, if left alone, will start stripping rights from each other. In a spherical cow sense, they can't really bond with each other because they fundamentally hate other people, like as a concept. This is also sorta why their social media sites never take off.

I generally hate people. I don't want to be authoritative over anyone. I don't want the responsibility.

I wonder if their hate is just a side effect of wanting to be superior over others. And that's what drives their base actions.

More or less, yes. It's the satisfaction that comes from power.

The main ingredients of fascism are fear (urgency) and a desire to reclaim a power once held, like in a birthright sense. A result of this is that the power they hold now is a result of the fear they've fostered, which means they quite literally cannot survive people becoming unafraid. There must always be a group of people to hate, even amongst each other, or the kingdom they've built vanishes.

So the one thing about fascism, especially in its late stages, is that it tends to eat itself alive. When they run out of enemies, they create enemies.

late stage

You are far more optimistic than I, my friend.

I mean the government isn't necessarily late stage but if the fascists are fighting over who's the biggest fascist that means shit's up.

Maybe, but authoritarian regimes do often purge their ranks, and it doesn't always mean anything significant is going down.

While I agree fascist tend to indulge in self harm via factionalism, I don't think this is really that, nor is it late stage. We're approaching the stage where the fascist shed their traditional conservative mask and start enforcing their real ideology over the traditional conservative party.

People forget that 4 years before the Nazi started their purge on greater German society during Kristallnacht they first purged and consolidated power in their own house during the night of the long knives.

This is it.

The "true believers" in neoliberal conservative values are useful to make the rightward march to increasingly reactionary politics seem proper and reasonable to anyone who isn't paying attention.

But when shit is about to go down those same talking heads are a liability if they aren't cool with barely contained barbarism.

This is not the late stages. This is not even the honeymoon.

According to the show and soon to be documentary, Cyberpunk 2077, it's gonna get weird.

It's like gaining eldritch knowledge. It unlocks certain aspects of reality unseen before now, at the cost of some of your sanity, driving you mad with understanding. And everyone around you thinks you've lost your mind

Fuck, that is the most apt explanation, thank you.

We lost our innocence forever.

Yer a Warlock msage

and just like with Eldrich knowledge you either hate what it did or dive deeper

the normalization of nazi culture makes me want to fucking die

This lot don't even have a snazzy dress sense. They should be required to at least do it properly and at least where the uniform, let's have a bit of self-respect around here.

This isn't even getting to the part where Nick Fuentes gets red in the face arguing that he's definitely a real incel, and denying accusations that he secretly gets laid.

He fucked that catboy didn't he?

I wonder if he found a cute catboy earlier in life he would have turned out differently

Cuddling cute catbois is a known preventative measure to Nazism.

Please cuddle catboys.

instructions unclear: found neonazi catboy bf

Hellsing fan?

They're just losers who live online trying to outdo each other to hold the most extreme view points possible so they can stand out in their depressing little discord shitholes. It's such a depressing reality I can't even imagine it. No wonder they become mass shooters.

Losers that have the ear of the president. Fuentes less but he also been to Mar A Lago for lunch with Maga Pompous

The two sides are racists who disagree regarding faith and whether Jewish people are their equals or not.

You're also describing lemmy, except for the mass shooter part... for now. With the stochastic terrorism that dominates certain discussions (Gaza, Luigi, etc) it's only a matter of time.

I've never felt the need to shift my opinions to please the crowd on lemmy. I mean if someone is really deep in certain communities that could happen, but that's the loser part. Online chat groups shouldn't become a focus of your identity.

Lemmy isn't in the same realm as Groypers or neo-nazi cliques or any of that nonsense. Really?

I'm guessing "Gaza" here means "if you don't support Israel you're a nazi".

Lemmygrad / .ml, baraag, the assorted far right instances

I despise every new term for Nazis.

They're just fuckin' Nazis. Don't spread their newsletters.

Ok, but nazi is just a newer, more specific term for fascist.

And it's useful to have specific labels so you can understand when they're fighting each-other, and perhaps encourage that.

group names are just as important to them as nationalitys are to a nationalist or pronouns to most people

It’s about whether you hate Jewish people the right way or not. It has nothing to do with brown people as both groups equally hate them.

Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.

Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.

https://i.imgflip.com/a658co.jpg

supported please.

Im sorry, what are you asking for?

I enjoy the use of past tense when he is mentioned. Now that we know he died by the hands of people just like him its even better. White on white. Hate on hate.

Other than the fact both were white Im not sure you can say they are “just like him”. There’s some significant differences in their views even if he turns out to be a groyper.

There’s some significant differences in their views

lmao. Ok yeah. Deep differences between nazis and the kkk too. Real important to remember!!! \s \s \s jfc.

there are difference between nazis and the KKK and you would have to be incredibly ignorant to not see them if you look for them. You dont fight brain cancer and skin cancer the same way despite both being cancers.

Nazis hate ______ and KKK hates ______

Both believe white christians are a "superior race" and use fear, disinformation, and violence to make their views clear.

What's the difference outside of who's the target of their ire?

The only real difference is one was pro Israel and the other wasn't.

I think they are asking you to use past tense even discussing attributes of the awful former human charlie kirk.

I see it as a light hearted joke, but with an undertone of "but seriously fuck that guy -- sorry, former guy"

This ~~parrot~~ racist has ceased to be! He is a former bigot!

"light hearted" yeah my heart soars

I have a feeling the trial is going to be a cringe fest of internet memes. Lawyers explaining to the jury what 4chan and pepe is. The trial Charlie Kirk deserves.

"So how do we know this chinese furry sniper known as 4chan might not be a Muslim?"

https://youtu.be/EM-booRzCYY https://youtu.be/3KO8OPejaXY?t=3m18s

I mean, most white people feel the same way. We learn about it and it's like, wtf.

Narduar! (music plays)
Narduar! (music plays)
Narduar! (music plays)

You are perishthought and we must know, perishthought what does Ip Man mean to you?

Do do do lo do, do do!

Pepe went the way of the swastika, and it's truly sad. 😭

Pepe is too general to be taken over by a group as a symbol. I hate when ppl just concede Pepe away like that. Fuck those normies (and ofc nazis as well).

Akin to "oh no, that nazi is eating freedom fries, has a USA tattoo, and is wearing a shirt - all of those things separately are now the undisputed universal symbols of Nazism!!".

Seriously, people saying that about pepe here reminds me of conservatives saying video games are the problem. It's like come on, I don't think the 19 year old woman streaming stardew valley on twitch to 12 people and posting okayge in chat even knows what a 4chan is lol

To be fair, I tend to think most people on lemmy are old enough to remember You're The Man Now Dog and think of Twitch as that site their son uses. They don't really know either.

Do not despair

Fun fact I have the exact type of pin as is on that hat. I actually have three of them, damn do I love surplus stores.

Be a lot cooler if you had a pin of Pepe wearing that pin.

Which dweeb was showing off his pin right before he was punched in the face? Also I will note I get them for free since I bought a great coat and an entrenchment tool and they just kinda wanted them gone.

I have the red star (no laurels). It came attached to a really warm hat at a thrift store.

Lmao no he didn't, what?

Imagine a Nazi. Now imagine someone who hates Nazis for not being even worse.

I think that's called a KillerNazi, then there MegaNazis, GigaNatzi and TeraNazis. At some point they'll come out with PetaNazis, but right now they're too expensive to be commercially available

One of 'em sure did kill a nazi

Triggered this dude

It should be a war crime to explain to my mother what a groyper is, what "OWO" is and how to pronounce it.

Oh-woo-oh, obviously. Just imagine the cringe if your mom decides to joke with OwO and UwU to her friends, it'll be worth it

Matching cat ear headbands in human and cat sizes, emblazoned with “RAWR XD”

The hell that was being active on reddit during the groyper wars and accidentally absorbing all this shitty knowledge years ago :(

.....reddit groyper wars???
what? When was that? Did it just completely fly under my radar????

Sorry, not the inter-maga war, this was way back during Trump's first term, when TD was still a thing. They had a whole reddit groyper "army" (terminally online TD / Musk incel fanbois) who'd show up and brigade posts on r/politics, r/news, etc.

Generally not so much that it was obvious brigading (we found coordination threads in TD), but enough to try to cast doubt on events and astroturf enough "genuine commentary from ordinary people" so it could be picked up by podcasters and influencers who could amplify the "spontaneous messages and feedback", which would turn be picked up by the less reputable right-wing "news outlets and spread from there to Faux News. It was both fascinating and scary, watching the right wing echosphere at work in detail.

We kept trying to beat back the brigaders, but honestly it was a total whack-a-mole thing, especially since spez decided that reddit was a total free speech zone during the first presidency and that he wasn't going to do anything to help keep things in check because he was too busy building his survival bunker and sucking up to the guys with the big money.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Oh yeah: fuck spez.

It's probably not a stretch to say that reddit was instrumental in the ride of the modern alt-reich movement

Reddit is ground zero for the whole umbrella of far right incels. What you talking about stretch. I'm so tired people being too timid to call it what it is.

I honestly can't tell if people are being disingenuous when they say they're shocked that reddit was any of that at all. I know the far right disavow it completely but of course those guys are bullshitters. They drive propaganda 24/7.

What's the excuse for those are in earnest about it. Were people really that siloed such that they completely missed pretty much the entirety of what reddit is?

I'm not too timid, I just don't know enough about the other places on the internet or the behind the scenes on Reddit to say much conclusively

Why should I defend reddit? It was a shithole that only got worse as time went on

At some point I intentionally stopped going and interacting with the darker sides of reddit to protect my own sanity, though. So yes, I was effectively siloed from it. But I'm not shocked, far from it

It's not behind the scenes when the most popular subreddits were such things as "c*ntown". It didn't get better or worse. It's always been a nazi shithole. Those weren't the dark cornerse of the site it was the top results on Google back when it was a thing to show it. Those subreddit could regularly be seen on r/all.

This meta is what I'm talking about. People talking like none of that existed or it was too obscure for anyone to have known.

I was on reddit since back when /r/spacedicks was a thing, up to a few months ago when I started getting instabanned. When tf were the groyper wars?

According to the guy who commented just 5min after you, during Trump's first term.

yeah i was on reddit back then too. tf?

There's not just 2

Wait till you read about the meme wars. This goes deeper than most people know.

I don't think I understand any of what's being said here. Don't know the term, don't know the references being made in the post.

/ˈnɑːtsi/

I've heard it GROI-per /gɹɔɪ.pɝ/

/gɹɔɪ.pɝ/

I always find these funny, I know the intent but so very rarely is it helpful. I’m probably just too dumb to figure it out

Ahh, yes of course, G-RICE-PE... I am sure there are people out there who know what those cursed letters mean, but it ain't me either.

Yeah but remember the R is an upside and backwards lowercase r sound. Not a standard R sound

That's because the English r sound is a weird one.

You can tell because of the way it is

https://ipa-reader.com/

It's really really useful if you're a linguist, a certain kind of autistic, or willing to consult the IPA chart and sound out a bunch of common words

There's probably a site somewhere where you paste it and it gives you the sound.

Google translate seems to not have the phonetic alphabet, but there's probably something out there that has it.

https://ipa-reader.com/

It's pronounced 'race-ist'.

I've no idea what this means, but if they're just racist PoS I don't think I care about nuance.

Basically Kirk was MAGA, the shooter was from a group called 'groypers' led by Nick Fuentes. There's an online meme 'persona' of sorts called Pepe, who I guess the groypers use as a mascot. Which is a shame as some of the Pepe content is pretty awesome. It's the punisher skull shit all over again. Anyway, infighting between facist groups, groypers being the more extreme far right group, which I didn't think was possible but here we are.

It’s the punisher skull shit all over again

It's so true. Conservatives are so uncreative that they miss the most basic elements of storytelling that most of us grasp as children.

They haven't made anything creative of their own since the swastika, and even that was stolen from Hindus. All they do is take take take, and then ruin everything they fucking touch.

They adopted Pepe?

That's a shame. It was a good meme there for a while. I had no idea that it was being tied to racist bullshit.

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I can't use that meme anymore. I don't want to be associated with these chuckle fucks.

Seriously? For like 15 years, you've only seen pepes posted by people who don't mind being mistaken for a racist.

I never made the association. Idk. Maybe I haven't been looking carefully enough.

To be fair, I don't seem to encounter a lot of racists, because I usually actively avoid them, and I also really haven't used Pepe very much either.

There's no lack of memes to replace Pepe, so I'm mostly unbothered by all of this.

I've been on the Internet too long to bother with every nuance of everything that's going on. There's way too much on here for me to care.

Honestly you're not alone. This is the first I've heard to any extent that Pepe was used by racists at all. I've seen some pretty heartfelt animations using the likeness and no hint to any extent that racism was somehow attached to it.

Jesus dude. Go back and look at all those pepe posts. Recognise the pattern

Maybe I'm not chronically online enough or in whatever channels where whatever you're talking about is going on as I'm not even sure where it is I would go to 'go back and look'. Are there like entire communities sharing pepe memes or something?

Yeah. I figured as much. There's still a lot of lurkers on Lemmy, and I assume that at least some of them have seen the comments and agreed at some extent.

Though, someone seems to be down voting comments around here. I dunno, I'm just some dude.

I've noticed a lot more down votes lately and I have no idea why. I still couldn't give any less of a shit if I'm down voted or not, it's just an interesting trend for my brain to look at.

Have a good day friend.

Yup, I've noticed the same. You have a good one as well!

whup, complaining about downboats or bragging about upvotes is an automatic downvote. Do I have to teach you EVERYTHING about Internetting??

Yeah there's a documentary about the guy who created pepe and how he hates that it's been co-opted by awful people. I forget what it's called.

they co-opted pepe, much like with punisher logo to twist it.

It's the same group that coopted the punisher logo?

Those guys are assholes.

Pepe is actually a reclaimed racist meme. Most of this 4chan racism about the frog is from 2016 or so. If you're ever on twitch, you'll see it all over the place because it's a huge part of their culture.

Weird. I spend a nontrivial amount of time on Twitch and I don't see that at all.

I'm speaking particularly of chat emotes. I still see it all the time, but it may vary by channel.

That's fair. Chat emotes can vary wildly from streamer to streamer.

Basically racists got mad Pepe got reco-opted by democratic protestors in Hong Kong so they decided to make their own frog to put racist shit on, this is how a decent chunk of America passes the time.

Same, literally yesterday

I'm whiter than bleached mayonnaise and I barely learned what a groyper was. Loser incels, the lot of em.

Don't go fucking dragging Nardwuar into this. He has paid his dues. HE IS TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT.

If he could get Trump to do the hip flip, we might be able to move past all of this (since Trump probably wouldn't survive the attempt)

Shhh, that's our thing.

Context? What's the other faction? The first one is likely https://wiki.froth.zone/wiki/Groypers?lang=en but I dunno the second.

The other faction got shot in the neck.

Not at all an important detail but pepe did not become a white nationalist symbol until winging dip shit out of touch loser candidate said it was.

pepe still not a hate symbol, pepe is for all

The fuckers can carry on knocking each other off and Vlad should advise them to use the 6th floor windows and balconies instead of bullets.

Bullets are more traditionally murican.

Is that like a grouper but with a South African accent?

they hate a lot of us. Solidarity

It's made up BS. Most of the conservatives using pepe avatars don't even know wtf fuentes is. I can confirm because I'm one of those people who wears a pepe the frog mask on forums. The left-wing and MSM hate that conservatives have this mask to anonymize themselves with and I think trying to peg them all to a white nationalist is an attempt to discredit and take down the entire group.

Well it's not going to work. I'm going to keep posting conservative things behind a pepe avatar. You can call me whatever you want. Say I'm a follower of fuentes, or hitler, or satan, or devour the souls of the innocent like cthulhu. I don't care. I'm still gonna wear my frog mask.

Haha.. yes, the Pepe mask is for conservatives "to anonymize themselves", even though the forums and platforms they're already on are already anonymous?

Don't kid yourself - its just a virtue signal to the conservative racist ingroup that you're one of them. Its a 'safe space hat'.

You reply to some random repost of a Twitter comment that its all part of an evil leftist MSM plot to get rid of the Pepe avatars but you're standing proud in defiance? Nobody is trying to get rid of them - they're handy identifiers for trolls and chuds. But yeah, uh.. great speech. Preach. Keep your cute frog mask!

"The left hates us because we're frog furries" is one of the takes of all time.

There it is... Best comment I'll read all day.

I think people hate right-wingers because they commit so much more violence on average. Like, by a factor of like 700%.

Why do you side with such violent people?

Wow your just dumb or racist. Ain't no two ways about it. Guess it's confessional time.

Look, i agree with you; but please check your spelling before you call someone dumb online.

The lowercase "i" has me weeping babes.

[I get that.] I turned auto correct off years ago and cant be bothered to hit shift most of the time. Besides, im not calling anyone stupid.

"im" still has me actually smiling. Yeah, sort of. You're giving prescriptive advice, which is what's giving me the giggles. It's funny.

Idk. Imo, the spelling of words matters much more than punctuation and capitalization. "Your" and "you're" have wildly different meanings. If i understand the marriam-webster definition of prescriptivism correctly, it pertains more to the spelling and cultural understanding of the word. Perscriptivism would be saying that what they said was blatantly wrong; which i didnt do. But calling someone stupid while mispelling the main subject of the sentence is pretty ironic and happens a lot.

[For instance: M-W uses the words irregardless and regardless for their example. For this specific scenario, i would say ur is better than your]

But i can just take my stupid elsewhere i suppose (get it? Lol)

Poor Pepe didn't deserve to be turned into a hate symbol. Now all my rare Pepes are worthless.

When the only redeeming quality of your speech is that it is free, then your speech is also worthless. Using the pepe avatar is just the discount sticker making it easier to spot.

You...wear a mask? On forums? So that people can't see you while you're posting...? What are you talking about?

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