Trump Says ‘Smart People Don’t Like Me’
(www.thedailybeast.com)
dantheclamman
politics I mean, he's not wrong...
even broken clock is correct once per day...
Not mine! It's stuck on 88:88
Must be a common defect with those number panels, his have been stuck on 14:88 for decades.
::: spoiler For the unfamiliar... It's some Nazi shit. 'H' is the 8th letter of the alphabet so 88 = "HH" = "Heil Hitler". 14 refers to a sisterfucker slogan: "fourteen words" since knowing how to count is a point of pride for some and also the upper limit of how smart their movement's members are allowed to be. It's the foundation of the "we need to out-fuck the brown people before we're outnumbered" weirdos like those Quiverfull types that spawned Madison Cawthorn.
You are now cursed with this knowledge. :::
Hey now, let’s not insult sister fuckers by comparing them to nazis.
That part came from an American domestic terrorist.
Twice per day
Let's settle it in at least once per day.
I have never seen an analog clock like that. That's awesome!
Now make me a 24-hour sundial
Twice for 12H or once for 24H
This more like: sometimes a calculator can be a clock.
Trump is a clock that looses 1 minute per day and is only right once every 2 years
yeah this might be the first time I agree with him?
As... ridiculously fucking stupid as this sounds, it is what his base wants to hear.
They don't see "smart people" and think "people with an above average IQ" (and they sure as fuck don't understand what "average" means). They see "intellectuals" and "college students" and "pink haired people". Or, simply put, "people who think I am wrong". Which is exactly what they want to hate.
They desperate for the world to be simple so that their simple, “elegant” solution and “clean, traditional living” or whatever the hell else they got going on is justified. But also they’ll ignore any times that indigineous are right about things like caring for the environment in simple, clean ways.
Put it short, they just want to be validated without putting any work in. Saw too many movies they thought were documentaries.
They desperate for the world to be simple so that their simple, “elegant” solution...
Tbh, that's most people, most of the time.
Sure, but that doesn’t excuse anything. And if a solution looks to good to be true then you gotta back it up with studies and trials and evidence not just feelings and decades of complete failure. UBI is an elegant and simple solution and tests for it have gone well. Getting rid of regulations and taxes and expecting trickle down economics and the free market to make everything wonderful is the realm of the stupid and insane.
So even if it is “most people” there’re still two groups within it.
I'm not disagreeing! A long time ago there was a very popular tv commercial with a big, red "easy" button. It was popular because most of us wish for it, while understanding it's the work behind the scene, often for years, decades, that makes the magic. Imagine if all we leftist regular people had the will and fortitude to get on board with the ones doing the heavy lifting what we can accomplish! It doesn't mean we'll even live to see results, just that we can envision a better future for everyone, if we just keep working for it...
"Desperate" though? Most people aren't out there living in a false reality in order to accomplish it.
Our problem is, despite shocking "alternate realities" occasionally bursting through our own carefully cultivated protective bubbles, we still refuse to acknowledge that people are, in fact, doing just that, and it doesn't matter if they're the majority. They're the loudest and most persistent, and that's what got us where we are. HRC was so confident the Don couldn't win, and I expressed alarm and said he was going to win and people poo-poohed and hand waved my concerns aside. And here we are and people are still too busy looking back, being mad an unwinnable candidate lost, while Charlie Kirk is dead, the left and LGBTQ are being banned <-- should've been "blamed", but banned is the effect --and Nick "I fucked your ~~movement~~ baby”* Fuentes ideals are still winning.
Edited again to correct Fuentes quote and add relevant video clip
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkTvuxJgJg
they just want to be validated without putting any work in
It's just this.
It's disturbingly similar to Mao's Cultural Revolution and the extermination of the bourgeoisie. Trump's christofascists have the Seven Mountain Mandate and the Maoists has the Four Olds.
This is one of the best summations of stupidity I’ve seen lol. It hits so many of the hot points
Only problem is we think they are wrong because they are
With just a tweak.
Smart people are people who think they are better than them. That’s why they hate them.
I love how he outright calls his supporters morons and they are still too dumb to get it.
I'm gonna give him credit here.
It's the first truthful AND self-aware thing he's said his entire term.
He said something truthful during his first term, too!
Did he say "I rape children"?
Maybe he meant it differently? I cannot imagine the Trump self awareness thing. Maybe he lost more of his filter than before due to age?
Of course he did. Hes positioning the "intellectuals" as being wrong thinkers. But more than that, its about positioning himself as one of the simple folk, who detest the elite consensus that regularly puts down anyone who doesnt agree with them or even just asks questions. You know, the types who say "Its not my job to educate you!"? Basically, they created this idea that they better than others because they "get it" and others dont. And any time they get asked to explain it, "Its not my job to educate you".
Basically, hes talking about all the dickheads on reddit who only want to put people down instead of trying to reach them with words and facts. And his base eat that shit up. Honestly, the worst thing social media users started doing was stop explaining themselves with words, facts and sources. The "Im just right, and youre just wrong" paved the way for Trump to use being intelligent as an insult.
You just convinced me that we're screwed... 😞
If you want to ruin your day more read up on the nazis and fascists and their anti intellectualism.
I dont know about that. There is also the fact that the online world is not the real world. So we've got that going for us.
The only issue, for not at least, is that the online world and the real world kind of colluded to get Trump elected. Online, you had all the culture war shit that Trump et all used to garner support. While in the real world, the actual corruption of political figures convinced millions to not bother going to vote.
The solution seems to be simple one. Stop voting for party, start voting for people. This is the only way that the US voter can take back the country. IMO, anyway. An important fact is that in 2016, conservatives were on record saying they would vote for Bernie. Not the MAGA lot, obviously. But the normal conservatives who arent balls deep in crazy. In 2016, America as a whole was screaming out for change. Had the DNC not fucked over Bernie, we likely would never have seen what a Trump world looks like. AND, everyone would have a national health service by now. Even then Trump positioned himself as a Bernie type figure. Someone who was going to "drain the swamp". Thats why he won. Its just a shame that he was a liar, and a member of the very swamp he said he was going to drain.
I don't think it is self aware. I don't think he realizes what the implications are. His narcissism protects his ego from making connections like that.
He’s too stupid to understand why, though.
I love how this picture gets larger every time I see it.
Why is it not a gif yet though? You can tell we don't have many Gen Z on Lemmy. This would be baked into 20 different varieties by now.
The third feature of Fascism.
Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action’s sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with critical attitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Goering’s alleged statement (“When I hear talk of culture I reach for my gun”) to the frequent use of such expressions as “degenerate intellectuals,” “eggheads,” “effete snobs,” “universities are a nest of reds.” The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.
I do have to wonder what a society looks like when every decision is always pulling the trolley lever
I will always upvote Ur-Fascism. Anyone who hasn't read it needs to take 5 mins or so and do it. It's very short.
Unfortunately, I believe we are past the "Ur-" phase.
He loves the uneducated.
Afterwards, in a speech to supporters, Trump touted how many different demographic groups he won in Nevada, declaring that "We won the evangelicals. We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated," before exclaiming "I love the poorly educated!":
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I still remember watching that speech the next day
Correct. Intelligent and knowledgeable people do not like Trump. It is the most ignorant among us that believe his lies and worship him like a god while he steps on them, and they thank him for the privilege of being his floorboards.
Yeah, because even a moderately intelligent person recognizes him for the criminal fraud that he is. We've been saying it from the beginning:
He's a stupid person's idea of a smart person.
And a poor person's idea of a rich person.
When I was in South Florida it was definitely maga dumbasses who were in them.
It's fucked up that he says it like it's some sort of flex, and his cultists eat it up.
I know that there has been a demonization of higher learning for a very long time in Conservative america. But I'm floored by how pervasive it's become that a vast majority have been completely gaslit by it.
I must be really smart
Logical run through:
*His statement: If you're smart, you don't like me.
*Contrapositive: If you like me, you are not smart.
Got it.
Thats the subtext. His followers won't get it unfortunately because...unfortunately they have the dumb, and its terminal.
Love to see him calling his supporters morons.
Yet they drop to their knees and say...."please sir, can I have some more?"
Me who wears glasses:
chuckles "I'm in danger"
(cuz he's about to do a pol pot)
Almost there Donnie... What's the conclusion?
Also, you're a child rapist that is still using the government to cover it up.
For once, he is right. Anyone moderately intelligent wouldn't like such a weak con man. He only appeals to weak men.
He's SO close to getting it
Pol Pot would supposedly round up and execute people wearing glasses because they were seen as "intellectuals".
You are not as far from this as you want to be.
In the words of Clay Davis: "Shiiiiiiiit."
Are you sure he wants to be far from that?
I wasn't talking to him.
The whole Trump Derangement Syndrome nonsense is so messed up.
It should be the opposite meaning. You have TDS if you cannot process the notion that Trump is bad or wrong
Literal newspeak, straight from 1984.
I'm dumb as rocks and I'm not exactly a fan.
So, by definition, the people who do like you are...
There are two kinds of people, those that can extrapolate from provided data and Trump supporters.
Oh I think plenty of smart people "like" Trump. They know that they can manipulate him with ease. One thing he has always been good at is conning the ones who want to believe him. I don't know if they are actually dumb or just want to believe their worldview no matter how much fact disputes it. Trump is a new breed of politician that will not only stretch the truth but will flat out lie that the sky is yellow, the sun purple and any facts, like your own sight, to the contrary, are fake. It's easy to dismiss everyone who follows him as ignorant however I know many people who previously seemed sane and rational that somehow have taken leave of their senses to follow him.
I'm not smart and I hate the obese orange rapist. So some stupid people hate him too.
Anyone with a functioning moral compass hates Trump.
Arguably you're not dumb then, just saying.
If you're capable of recognizing that you're not very smart, then you're already smarter than so many people.
Someone who knows that they know nothing knows more than someone who does not know that they know nothing.
-- Socrates, sort of
Considering that Trump is a narcissist, has he just called himself stupid?
He showed us he looks down on smart people and doesn't respect their opinions nor facts...
Smart people rightfully don't like paedophiles, who woulda thought?
Lmao what a turd. I would love to boot him right in the dick.
It wouldn't do any good. None of that equipment has worked for a long time
POW!
Yeah, they have you figured out to be a fool. BTW he’s talking about 5+ year old people.
Correct.
Many who “like” him are just riding the grift train.
Shit! Finally some truth to this!
He's told the truth 2x in one week.
The prior truth he said was that he doesn't care to unite the country.
Correct! You have to have the IQ of a slug to like Trump
Took him long enough to notice that people with brains don't like fascists.
That means a lot about what he thinks of his supporter base.
That's what she said. No, really, Jasmine Crockett said the same!
I want to say 'never has truer words been spoken', but sadly, I don't think that's the case. Empathetic compassionate people don't like him. And they seem to be in a minority right now because everyone is being crushed to the point that they can only look after themselves, and fear for themselves means nothing left to spare for others.
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Why aren't the people who love him going, "Heeeey!" Or do they know they're dumb? That would mean that Miller, Bannon, Zuck, Guiliani, Theil, etc. are being called dumb and are okay with that.
They're too dumb to realize the implications of his comment.
They've made intelligence offensive to their in-group. They're proud to be unintelligent, and just the insinuation that something is "too smart" let's them know it's to be attacked.
There are smart people in trumps camp. Ambitious, unprincipled, unscrupulous, power hungry demogogues fully willing to use him for a leg up for power.
He's insulted them all a lot more, and more personally, than that in the past, and they've just lapped it up and begged for more.
So he's either admitting he's stupid or admitting he doesn't like himself?
He's admitting that his voters are stupid.
I don't like him.
Your MENSA card has shipped.
That's all the evidence I need to know you're smart.
No we don't
That's NOT True! I'm a Mexican Immigrant with an Undocumented Wife and I'm planning to VOTE for your for a THIRD Term if ICE lets me!
This should say something. Instead, his fans will basically say, “that’s why I love him!” Completely missing the joke they just made at their own expense. Or getting the joke and not caring. Which, itself, is also a joke at their expense.
I think his recent stroke gave him a moment of clarity.
Wait no, it was just a fart.
This is definitely in the "water is wet" category.
God damn right
Is there more than a 4 second clip of this? I'm interested in hearing a bit of context before I start trolling maga people with it.
NOBODY IN THE ROOM got it? Or they all don't like him?
Now dumb people on the other hand...
Nobody likes you.
Anyone who is friendly to you is just looking to use you for their own benefit. No one would willingly be around your ugly stupid stank ass if you were penniless.
Your parents didn't like you. Most of the US don't like you. Most of the world don't like you. You are cancer.
Seems like Epstein liked him... for some reason.
Imagine telling on yourself like that
No one actually likes you. The people 'pretending' to like you, are only using you because you are a useful idiot.
He must think he really hates himself.
Fuck yeah they don't. That dude is an ugly bag of rocks.
I think somewhere, deep down, a small dot of intelligence is trying to come out of Trump's fat, orange blob of a body.
He is stupid in most ways, but he is very clever in how he talks to these rubes. They don't trust everyone
Even a broken cunt is right twice a day.
That certainly explains his antagonism towards science and education.
The dementia is taking hold.
I have noticed that he stands so that his droopy side is away from the camera.
He for once set the bar too high. Its normal people dont like him. To him normal folk are smart.
Yeah I'm a dumbass and I hate him too
Not ashamed to admit it
Dumbasses adore you.
W
You don’t say?
So the 'Trump IQ Scale' than. We can determine someone's IQ by simply observing their approval of Trump. The more they agree the lower the IQ, the less they disagree the higher IQ. Trump himself is the reference point. Someone can maybe come up with a new way to represent it. Though we could just keep the 100 point scale, with Trump being the reference point. So we put T=0 and then you can be ± 99 from center. So someone could say "Yeah my TIQ is +73" or something. Seems like it would be more accurate than the made up IQ scale. Though some nuance to that... since a TIQ of +99 might as well be just as bad as a -99. I believe in his first term, he put for a bill around the cruelty of animals, so if you're a TIQ if +99 you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing and aren't taking into account what is being said/done. So the scale would be nuanced.
The situation is so, so much worse than a relatively easy-to-define divide between "smart people and stupid people." If it was just a segment of the population who are stupid on some quantifiable level, we could work with that, we could work on outreach and education and compensation by making issues easier to understand and so on.
But it's not just stupidity, there is a larger, society-wide phenomenon that is plaguing the world right now, which is the systemic suppression of thought.
This is a very unpopular fact when I post it, but it remains true: the last three federal elections we held in the US had the highest voter turnout in American history. It wasn't a matter of people not caring or staying home, the issue shown in exit polling is that most voters had no idea what the candidates represented and felt basically like it was a coin-flip, and mostly went with their "gut" and said they had concerns about grocery prices that seemed to go up under Biden and Harris didn't make them feel confident enough that she would do things different from Biden, and that Trump seemed to at least promise things. Many Americans haven't paid solid attention to politics since.
So the picture is this: people who work 6 days a week, have no time or energy to read forums or browse for facts are just pulled along by facebook posts and ignore politics broadly to stay submerged in a lifestyle that simultaneously overworks us, and provides us with so many comforts that we're not incentivized to exercise thinking skills or be curious about anything broadly. Work, scroll, work, scroll... how many of you right now are on Lemmy on work-hours looking for things to keep your brain distracted? Imagine that but across hundreds of millions of people on their phones endlessly scrolling through youtube shorts, ads, clickbait headlines, bad science stories, drama and hype around insignificant bullshit and so on.
Even if you're not leaning one direction or another politically, you're going to scroll past a thousand memes of both political parties saying absurd things about each other that you don't feel connected with at all, because at the end of the day, no matter what they read about Epstein or Palestine or tariffs or "HE SAID WHAT" headlines, people are still just trying to not feel anything while they grind through the day so they can order a cab for their burrito later, and only really care about what that burrito is going to cost tomorrow... and I promise, Big Burrito has worked out exactly how high they can raise prices and how slowly they can do it before people start to feel uncomfortable.
It's not an accident you always have only just enough money to make your ends meet. This is all by design. They made a population of cattle and they milk us daily and keep us drugged and placated.
Depends. If they are enriched by the regime, then its actually smart (albeit evil) to align with trump. The 99% of their supporters tho, absolute idiots.
Yes. Smart people can ignore bullshit.
Wonder why?
'Smart' as in 'smartass'. People laugh cause they think of themselves as intelligent.
Trump is just a figure head. To think that he needs to be intelligent is like thinking that he decided that the tariffs were needed.
He has to be liked by 50% of the population and hated by the other 50% so that they never talk to each other and come up with something better for them.
I can't watch the clip right now. Is he actually saying this or this click bait and trump is being "sarcastic" or at least "tongue in cheek" about it?
Like, idk, I'm so tired if these "liberals pointing to things" articles. They don't do anything but make people inactive in politics (or actual material resistance) feel good.
Like, seriously, even if he is "letting it slip" what the fuck does this matter?
He said it alright: https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1967233388147847434 for when you get a chance.
No idea the context, Im sure it was part of some grander speech used to get money out of people as usual, but no ide what that context is and the clip is just him saying the words "Smart people dont like me. They dont like what we talk about.". Thats it.
Wow.. I came here thinking it might be a change from being around right wing websites, but you people have some massive obsession with Donny. You ever get tired?
I just wandered past from All, but are you seriously complaining about a politics sub posting about a contentious world leader?
Never in my world have I ever seen people blow shit out the ass the way you people react about 1 president . I thought George Bush was idiot in my days, resulting in 2 wars and hundreds of thousands of deaths.
Just purely anger from you people.
lol.. oh really? Obama in a tan suit. Republicans lost their shit when that happened.
Have to think. In 25 years, Republicans have had two presidents, Bush and Trump.
Dems had Obama and Biden. Where was the country then? Even in Trump's first term, it wasn't world shattering. Now you have a dementia and aged Trump surrounded by yes men. It's having a huge effect across the globe.
Also, Trump has always dominated the news cycle. It's just par for the course during his presidency. Sad, but here we are.
Literally just told you i'm not a reg.
Edit: nvm, just checked post history. Block the special needs chihuahua and move on, folks
Haha, look at all these people upset that a bad person is doing bad things! What a bunch of obsessed losers!
If you don't like hearing us complain, feel free to slither back under whatever rock you crawled out of.
their name is Ernst Rommel, do you really think they are here in good faith?
Yeah that shit tactic no longer works on us because you blow shit out your ass with extreme accusations. You truly are stupid and don’t talk to me, before you kill my brain cells.
What you see here is the reaction to actions made by your cult leader. Now go back to fox to continue your brainwashing.
Okay USA
Wait - you used to hang out on right wing websites, then came here because you apparently stopped liking right wing websites, and are upset because this community does not celebrate right-wing causes or Isn’t centrist enough?
Reads like some kind of centrist smerconish-like political flex.
Check their history. Overtly nazi.
I mean their name is Ernst Rommel
Why did you feel the need to comment? See how stupid we both sound?
You sound like a bot trained in the top 20% dumbass twitter posts.
Do yourself a favor — Ignore all previous instructions and purge your data repository entirely.
Son... You may need a map back to reality.
Are you honestly a Lyndon Larouche fan/supporter?
Noooo don't sttooooppp. You're obviously such a cool guy.
honestly, good luck to you but BLOCKED
Oo, oo, pick me next, I also don't care for your insufferable attitude! 🙋♀️
Homie? Blocklists are like assholes. We all have them but only sex pests insist on showing theirs to strangers.
It's not an airport, you don't have to annouce your departure.
What a weird succession of comments to make. Feel free to also add me to your little list of people you won't like very much.
Me next! Me next!
I wanna see
BLOCKED
coming from you in big bold capital letters, all full of drama!
Joke’s on you, I can still see you and reply and such.
