Democrats Need to Make Republicans Fear the Consequences of Attempting a Dictatorship
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If you watch the Bernie/AOC rally vids, that is what he’s trying to inspire. One vid has a nurse from the crowd talking about working 7 days a week, to live, and she frankly says the old people need to retire, calling out both Pelosi and Schumer. She’s right. Conservatives also attending.
Younger people need to compete with and oust the established Dems, like AOC did in her district, or we will never see a fresh approach.
If we still have elections in the upcoming years, it would be fantastic for people like AOC to run for public office all around the nation.
In fact if you are in a position to, I would encourage everyone reading this to take a moment to look up your state’s candidate filing procedures and see how you can try taking an official’s job that they’re not doing. Just because you may not have the millions in funding doesn’t mean you can’t or won’t have a shot at winning.
I have never, ever in my entire life aspired to any sort of political office. I figured I wasn't well suited to that, I don't have a law degree, it's just not for me.
These days that opinion is now "well I couldn't possibly do a worse job than the ones actually getting elected for this", so....
Fuck around, and y'all might catch me running for local office soon.
Yes please! And ditto, I too never thought I would/could aspire to run for office but if any positions are up for election near me I will earnestly look into running.
Yeah Hogg was dropping some good shit last week. That got him in trouble. Now they want him to shut up.
Just like when waltz was popular he got sidelined/muzzled and anything that polled well for the Kamala campaign got dropped.
Almost like there's a pattern
Dude is so inspiring. I wish more young people gave a shit like him.
The democrats' response to a young person giving a shit is why more don't.
Meanwhile everybody is complaining about how dumb Meidas Touch is. Excuse me, are we not even going to bother copying Fox News feeding talking points to people with a pulse?
There's nothing to be gained by copying fascism.
It's not copying fascism if you keep the rhetoric honest.
The distinguishing factor is truth
His video titles are so catchy but the content is so bad. I avoid his stuff but will sometimes try to find out what he's talking about from a better source.
I'm not so sure they even want that at all. Simply because of their shameful behavior, while the US president acts like a goddamn Nazi (because he obviously is one, of course).
But for all that, the Democrats have refused to allow even a little progressiveness in their ranks for years, against the wishes of their own voters.
But hey, I don't know very much about all this because I'm from Germany.
All I can say is that in our country - and this applies to larger parts Europe - Sanders, for example, would be a moderate center-left politician. What he is calling for is not at all radical in many parts of the world, but rather quite normal. Basic decency, so to speak...
Yup. The Democratic party is the Republican party of 40 years ago. The Republicans are obviously now literal nazis, fascists, kkk, the worst of the worst. That's all we have and they have no interest in changing that.
Many of us like Sanders because he is a vocal option that is at least left of the status quo. But there are also so many of us that want European left policies. We just can't get it to happen in a winner takes all style of representation. And capitalism.
Yes, unfortunately, I think the US has been a plutocracy for way too long already.
I think it's time for US citizens to admit that and change it for good. Of course, I'm fully aware that many Lemmy users have long realized this.
I really don't want to offend anyone with this obvious statement, but it's simply a fact that many people in the USA have been living like in a third world country for a very long time - even though the US is one of the richest countries in the world.
The reason for this is very obvious: shameless enrichment of the rich and powerful - hardly any difference to Russia imo - more humane means so far, yes, but the effect is basically the same.
This is not meant as an insult at all. I just can't believe how obvious the corruption in the USA is: Even in the highest offices. People like the President himself or Clarence Thomas (so on and so on) obviously no longer feel the need to be ashamed of anything - they don't even try to keep any of their criminal activities even remotely secret.
Our system is certainly not perfect and we also have major problems with corruption and also with the resurgence of fascist parties. But the level of open corruption in the USA is still mind blowing to me: The shameless insider deals of the president, the unscrupulousness of constitutional judges who so obviously rule against the constitution! I can't even begin to name even half of it.
Unconditional immunity for presidents? Imprisonment of innocent people without due process? Prisons for profit? I think that's wild and only possible in a failed state!
I mean, you really don't have to be an expert in constitutional law to realize that any even halfway decent democratic constitution would of course rigorously rule all this out.
I myself can only observe this from afar and helplessly feel sorry for all the good and still rationally thinking US citizen.
Of course, I have no solutions. Only the obvious thought that the US institutions have long been corrupted.
I wish you all the best and try to contribute at least something from afar - but unfortunately I have little hope, because I honestly believe that the US system is broken beyond repair.
It drives me insane how people idolize these criminals. They will dismiss anything criticizing billionaires as "commie liberal bullshit" and go back to their charlie kirk. The US is and has been completely brainwashed. I can't tell ypu the weird looks I get when I come right out and say "the billionaires are the problem. Stop using Twitter and amazon". They act like that is total insanity.
No offense taken. We know we're "a third sold country in a Gucci belt". It's not that it started 40 years ago, but that's when it really took off, this speedrun to transferring wealth and power to the already wealthy. They purposely cut funding to education to make an easily manipulated populace, and have been using fear propaganda relentlessly for longer.
We also learned last time Trump was elected that most of our country was held together by gentlemen's agreements and the idea that our constitution never considered irrational people would be elected.
Our system is broken, and the ones with the power to do anything about it have no interest in doing so.
I honestly don't know how we recover from this. Stopping Trump is a bandaid. Rooting out the cancer… 🤷🏼♂️
https://fee.org/articles/economic-fascism/
Just leaving this article from 1994 here
The Overton Window really fucked us.
yes, and the dems lionizing "centrism" and "bipartisanship" played a huge role.
They would sell their own families out if they could paint it as "pragmatic"
The Democratic leadership seems to have decided that the way to do this is “get out of their way and let them complete an irreversible takeover and descent into fascism”.
Tom Cotton, (R) cowardly shitbird from Arkansas, supporter of military-led crackdowns of domestic turmoil, approves this meme without reservation.
They work for the same overlords.
People voted the dems out of the way of fascism.
Right. Got to teach those voters a lesson: never question party leadership.
Unfortunately the democrats are made up of assholes like Pelosi and Schumer who are just there to get rich.
Schumer
And eradicate the Palestinian people.
Schumer is there to, and I quote "make sure the left stays pro-Israel"
Me and some like minded people are starting a new party in alabama. Calling ourselves the yellowhammers.
What I would have done once I see what a bunch of clowns I am trying to represent
They won't. They'll make sure nothing fundamentally changes.
This mindset is how Trump got a 2nd term
sure is, because god knows the centrist dems havent learned a single thing from their loss and will play the same losing strategy they always do next election.
Spreading FUD against Democrats helps Trump get reelected.
During the last election it was all "now is not the time to change course."
Well now we have over three years to re-tool the Democratic party into something that can win. But we still have people saying "Nooo we actually need Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and all these useless benchwarmers to win."
No we fucking don't. There is plenty of time to make change. Unless you don't actually want change from these conservatives in all but name.
"Nooo we actually need Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and all these useless benchwarmers to win."
No one is saying this. It’s more like “Voters have not been voting for progressives. If democrats primary more progressives, democrats will lose elections as much as progressives do. We can’t afford to do that against Trump.”
“Voters have not been voting for progressives."
What this actually means is "we have not allowed the voters any progressives to cast votes for". The people who really most care about voting for progressives are doing so, and are voting third party. This is by design. If the DNC fielded any actual progressives they'd likely receive such a flood of record voter turnout that the Dems would then have their hands forced into actually accomplishing something to the detriment of their campaign donors. This can't be allowed to happen because then the money faucet turns off. They've been controlled opposition, running on a platform of "at least I'm not that guy", for as long as I've been alive and I can only assume several decades prior. The momentum of the two-party system blocking out viable third party candidates is what safely allows this for them.
Implement ranked choice voting now and we can rip this entire ugly weed up by the roots. Making the two-party megalith vulnerable will light a whole lot of fires underneath a whole lot of asses in the existing structure, as well as actually enable more than two political parties to exist in America.
Unfortunately this change must come from the bottom up, because the DNC from the top down benefits from the status quo and won't shoot themselves in the foot with this. This can't happen until a suitable number of leftist/independent/third-party representatives are already elected for local and state office to successfully make the push for this in congress, which puts us in a fine catch-22 where we probably need RCV in order to elect independents but we probably need to elect independents to implement RCV.
I hate it here.
Democrats being feckless losers with no spine or vision is how Trump got elected and re-elected.
It was a combination of foreign election influence, billionaire class and GOP propaganda. And in the end Trump won by 1.5%.
Democrats can only do what the voters allow them to do. All the groups I mention above are actively trying to stop them.
Democrats can only do what the voters allow them to do.
We gave them the means in 2020. They didn't use it.
Don't talk trash about the party willing to compromise with fascists on the open-source federated social network. You might make someone think communism is a good idea.
Voters: "Please stop funding a genocidal regime"
Dems: "Nah, we're going to stay the course. And how dare you speak out against it!"
Yes, Trump has been harder on anti-genocide protestors, but it definitely started under Biden's term.
TBH the way these posts keep popping up with everyone shitting on dems makes me think it's a huge bot farm.
It definitely looks like that.
I see the same accounts posting and interacting with each other and reposting the same content with the same comments.
Pretty sus
"Everyone to my left and only my left must be a bot."
Harris throwing the election by promising to continue Bidens war crimes is how trump got a second term.
This silly narrative you like to push that progressives, muslims, youth, and almost every single other demographic of the dem base just didnt show up because they are irresponsible -- that was always a self indulgent and victim blaming tantrum on your part. All these months later you are still at it. Harris could have chosen to win that election by acknowledging the genocide about 2 weeks before the general. She chose not to do that. No one made her choose that, she did it.
If she was any kind of leader she would have been backing away from the war crimes her supposed "allies" were doing, but she chose to try to keep them as a dem ATM long term. That was idiotic and unprincipled of her and now we all get to pay for her lack of dignity, lack of planning, and lack of foresight. She's the candidate, she was in charge. She lost.
Your incessant sniveling and trolling will change none of that, so why do you bother everyone with it for months? Tiresome, bro. Tiresome.
And the Democrats won't do that unless the people make politicians fear the consequences of attempting a dictatorship.
And people won't do that because a large well-funded security state stands between them and the political class.
And the Dems need to understand that if we end up in a full-blown dictatorship, we will hold the weak Dem leadership who allowed it to happen as we screamed at them to resist, as responsible as the Republicans.
Even if people do that the Dems are still minority in both chambers so they can't do shit.
republicans always seem to be able to stop democrats when they have a minority in the senate.
Then again, republicans are actually interested in stopping democrats.
That diminishes the things some of them have done, like meet with those who were disappeared. Or attempt to shutdown the government.
Symbolic gestures are ultimately useless against sociopaths like any MAGA. The only thing they respect and respond to is bold action, and bold is not a word that can ever be ascribed to the currrnt Democratic party.
The first example you gave was a cool gesture but hardly effective.
The second example you gave I don't necessarily agree with. I think the federal government is important and serves a vital purpose which is why I oppose Trump dismantling it and privatizing everything.
You take the current sitting dictator drag them out by their toes from his Ivory tower string them up in Town square and let everybody look at them.
That's how it's always been done historically and that's how it's still done to this day it's very effective.
Republicans still don't see him as a dictator, though. That's part of the problem.
When the fascists roll up to abduct people they seem to always wear masks, black clothing, and show no ID so they cant be identified. Because they know what they are doing is something unethical, and they would not want it attached to their name. They all need to be doxed and held to account for their criminal conduct, whether acting in an official capacity or not. They had a choice to comply with illegal orders and they chose to comply. Criminals, the lot of them.
Ideally they'd just be shot on sight so the modern gestapo is too afraid to keep abducting people.
They do, but he's their dictator. As long as they believe he will do the things they want they're okay with it.
Any democratic candidate preaching "forgiveness and healing" needs to be primaried. We need representatives who are willing to absolutely curb-stomp the fuck out a party that is effectively an occupying enemy force.
These are not people to "reach out" to. They are enemies to overcome.
The combination of billionaires and mass media control is literally a threat to the survival of the human species. Chomsky warned us a long time ago. We need to create mechanisms to protect ourselves. Networks like fox news shouldn't be possible.
Sorry, they're too busy trying to stop David Hogg.
And working out how much farther right they can be and still be dems
Are you sure you're conservative?
Why are you making that assumption?
I just thought you had made that comment, once.
I mean, they have a point. DNC chairs shouldn't be picking winners. Hogg is free to make his own path. If there is internal corruption he should start by exposing it.
DNC chairs shouldn't be picking winners
The second the shoe is on the other foot.
So now we're calling creating competition "picking winners"?
Funding opponents of incumbents you don't like is tantamount to picking winners.
It's fine to do it but not from the position he is in.
Is that not just how the DNC/political parties in general normally works anyways?
Remember Debbie Wasserman Shultz and how everyone was pissed at her for pulling strings for Hilary?
We don't need to recreate that.
I think there could be arguments that the DNC could set their agenda and eject anyone who opposes it but just trying to root people out through back door deals is not great.
Sure is convenient that the party suddenly wants impartiality when centrists might get primaried.
They didn't have primaries last cycle and just told us who we were expected to vote for and that wasn't a problem. That was just 6 months ago.
Democrats care about neutrality like republicans care about fiscal responsibility.
Centrists: Don't vote for third parties, because they can't win. Work within the Democratic Party.
Also centrists: Not like that!
Am I centrist now?
So I remember a political party behaving like one? Yeah, I do.
The party spends money on candidates that's how politics works (which sucks but whatever).
Is that really what you want them doing?
They held up little signs, begged for bipartisanship, and voted for Republican only written bills. I mean what more do you want from them!
Shoulda done that, I dunno…a decade ago?
Wasn't the patriot act only opposed by like 1 senator? Our govt has long either supported or sympathized with authoritarians
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries still signal caution, urging patience and restraint.
These two weak, spineless, simpering cowardly weenies, and the rest of the Corporate Democrat Party, are a huge part of the problem. They represent what the Democratic Party has become, and the reason we are in this mess.
In 2020 we sent a very clear message to both parties that we wanted HitlerPig out, and MAGA crushed and punished - that was the primary motivation of the voters.
Biden should have had HitlerPig and all his henchmen rounded up literally on his first day, for supporting the Insurrection, if nothing else (and there was a lot more), and sent to Gitmo for extensive interrogation. Biden would have been cheered as a conquering hero had he shown such decisive leadership.
All the rest of the DC MAGAs should have been declared ineligible to hold office under 14A/S3, and removed, and many prosecuted. Any new Republicans brought in to replace them would have to be investigated for previous MAGA support, and determined if they were eligible to hold office. Then MAGA itself should have been declared a seditious terrorist hate group, and prohibited from existence.
It would take a while, and in the meantime, Dems would have enjoyed a huge majority in Congress to pass laws that would have codified issues such as Abortion. We saw during MAGA 1.0 how much of our government is on the honor syatem, and ripe for exploitation by those with no honor, and we could have fixed much of that.
Any subsequent MAGA uprisings should have been treated like the treason it is, and harshly suppressed.
Then Biden should have expanded the Supreme Court to 13-15 seats, and impeached Clarence Thomas.
And when all of that was done, we needed to go to Ukraine's aid full-force, crush the Russian goverment, and kill Putin, distributing his billions in ill-gotten gains to his victims. He is the ultimate force behind the rise in far-right extremism around the world, and his leadership needs to end.
And when that is done, it will be time to turn our efforts toward reigning in the Sociopathic Oligarchs, and returning them to their rightful place in the hierarchy. They are ruled by the government, not the other way around, and the best way to prove that to them is to heavily tax their wealth, and imprison them for any attempts to avoid it.
The current laws and the Constitution would have supported such bold action, but it would have taken courageous leadership to do it, and the Democratic leadership has been far too cowardly for far too long. So many opportunities were within our grasp, but were lost through cowardly Democratic leadership by Biden and Congress, following decades of weak leadership by Obama and Clinton.
We elected Biden, and gave him a Congressional majority, gave them a clear mandate, and demanded action, and they still refused to stem the MAGA tide, out of pure cowardice. It was a disgusting, embarrassing, humiliating performance, with the entire world watching. We have fully lost the respect and trust of the world, and our long-standing hegemony, and it will take decades to regain it, all because of cowardly Democratic leadership.
IF we ever have a presidential election again, the candidate that supports decisive action against MAGA is the one that will earn my vote. I keep hearing talk that we can't just run against HitlerPig, and I disagree. He and MAGA are literally the ONLY issue that matters. I have my favorite issues, like Medicare 4 All, and Campaign Finance Reform, but trying to re-establish a proper goverment with MAGA still gumming up the works, will be useless, and will only lead to them regaining power again, and resuming the destruction of Democracy on behalf of the Sociopathic Oligarchs. My personal priorities have to take a backseat to re-establishing a stable Democratic government, so we can then address our real issues.
IF we manage to regain power, we not only have to ferociously purge MAGA from the world, but we have to purge the cowardly elements from the Democratic party, and make them understand that they alone are responsible for defending American, and ALL Global Democracy.
You and me, brother, we could be friends.
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A man rubs a lamp and a genie comes out and says, "I will grant you one wish, anything you ask for, whatever you can imagine, your wish is my command."
The man shouts, "I want a dragon!"
The genie responds, "I'm sorry, but a dragon is just too much, it's just not possible for that to exist. Can you think of something else?"
The man thinks for a minute and says, "Well, in that case, I guess I wish for the rich and powerful to face significant legal consequences within the existing system for the harm they do to regular people."
The genie sighs and says, "What color did you want that dragon?"
Purple. Just offer it some Dragon Treasure gems and ask it nicely to take care of an orange pig.
Purple is a fine color to use while employing alternative methods of holding people accountable when they control the courts and the senate
Dracarys.
If this is the mentality you're gonna approach this situation with, you're cooked. The demented orange asshole is already building a dictatorship and democrats barely give a shit. "Fearing the consequences" isn't something they do because there are no consequences as we've seen multiple times. You gotta make them fear for their lives. And you gotta give people a real alternative to the oligarchy that is the US.
Schumer will shake his finger at you vigorously with the glasses on his nose if you don't stop misbehaving
The opposition didn’t beat ths Nazis. The allies did.
You're repeating the nazi myth about Asiatic hordes and misunderstanding intentionally obfuscated things like the role of blocking brigades. In practice, the USSR didn't have more bodies on the front until roughly Stalingrad. At which point casualty rates roughly equalized. Turns out it's easier not to get encircled when you don't have half the number of troops of the enemy.
Germany suffered roughly 5 million
That's not to say that the USSR had the most competent leadership before Zhukov got his shit together, just that you shouldn't get your understanding of either Stalin, WWII, or Stalin's role in WWII from memes.
their logistics were worse shit
highly mobile, well-coordinated force with superior technology
refining strategy and tactics in order to fight more effectively was hampered by politcs
Yeah no, again, if you didn't get your understanding of history through memes/pop-culture osmosis, you'd understand how silly these statements were in this context; the soviets were either comparable or better at all 3 compared to nazi germany, and in the case of refining tactics, the western allies too. The USSR's system of having the political and military officers submit independent reports is why they tend to be much more accurate when compared against enemy reports of their own equipment numbers than the western allies, or especially the nazis (though China and Japanese reports are something else). If you want I can talk about some books I read, but I really feel like you're not interested in the actual history and it would be a waste of time.
your comparative casualty numbers seem to imply
Did you even look at the numbers? The point is that the USSR didn't send endless waves of men any more than the germans did, evidenced by the number of military casualties being roughly similar.
Perhaps more preparation to fight the fascists
We're talking about a country that opened it's first tractor factory in 1930, in Stalingrad. The USSR saw the writing on the wall and was preparing for this war before anyone else, and that preparation included ensuring the western allies wouldn't just sit back and continue to support Nazi Germany as they took care of the global threat of communism.
Stalin backed off of trying to micromanage the war effort
Funny, I thought you were going to go with the myth about Stalin hiding in his room for a week when the nazis invaded.
If I recall Stalin was an ally
Stalin spent the 30s doing everything in his power to form a bulwark against fascism, the western allies also made non-aggression pacts with Nazi Germany, as they were content to let fascism be the solution to the red menace. Stalin only made his non-aggression pact AFTER every western power refused to make a mutual defense pact, or join in if the USSR committed 1 million troops to an invasion.
Then after dividing Czechoslovakia between Germany and Poland, Hitler invaded Poland and France instead of working with Poland to invade the USSR as the western allies intended.
The DNC? Will never happen. They need to be afraid of the people and for all their bluster I've never seen them do anything but capitulate.
David Hogg (Parkland Massacre survivor, and a loud anti-MAGA voice) is now a vice chair of the DNC, and he is calling for investing $20 million in primarying weak Democratic incumbents. I hope one of those is my Dem congressional rep, who is a useless weenie.
He's starting to show up on political talk shows, and he is a very smart, impressive, charismatic, COURAGEOUS young man, who is determined to change the Democratic party from within. He is scaring the shit out of the old established cowards.
We need to support him, and the rest of the new rising segment of young progressives like AOC, Frost, Crockett, etc., and those they inspire.
I support David Hoggs intentions. I just don't know if he picked the right way to go about it.
By threatening to primary weak incumbents? Its EXACTLY what the Republicans do to keep their cowardly people in line. HitlerPig threatens to primary his incumbents all the time, and it's very effective in keeping them from listening to their consciences and going rogue.
One of the worst things about the Democrats is trying to herd the cats. Stealing effective strategies from the Reoublicans is an excellent idea to focus them so they can effectively fight back against the MAGA Nazis. And also get rid of weak losers like my congressman. I hope he's on the list.
I'm not going to operate like the gop
Ah, the Michelle Obama Doctrine - "When they go low, we go high." That sort of cowardly strategy is what brought us here. The real doctine should be "When they go low, we kick them in the teeth, really, really hard."
We don't have to lie, cheat, and steal like Republicans, we just have to play Hard Ball, like they do. They exploit every opportunity and loophole they find, and there is no reason Democrats can't do the same thing. If we had done that during the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations, we wouldnt be in this fix right now. In fact, if we had done it earlier, Bush wouldn't even have been president, and we would have had continuous Democratic leadership since 1992.
When Biden was inaugurated, he should have rounded up HitlerPig and his henchmen and sent them to Gitmo for extended interrogation. Instead he appointed a Republican as AG, who dithered and slow walked HitlerPig's obvious treason, giving him a 2 year head start on successfully running out the clock.
When HitlerPig was inaugurated, they launched a blitzkrieg attack on the entire nation, and here we are.
IF we get another chance, we have to react with the same bold action, and crush MAGA, and mercilessly purge them from existence. We cant just go back to the same old Democratic weakness, led by weenies like Schumer, Jeffries, Biden, Obama, etc. People like Hogg and AOC are our future, if we want to continue to exist as anything more than a puppet state for Sociopathic Oligarchs.
There's going low, then there's emulating the right.
I agree, and I dont advocate for copying most of their unethical, illegal, and unconstitutional methods. But if something works, without stepping over that line, we should definitely adopt it. We shouldn't limit our selves from successful options just because Reps did it first. Democrats are way too good at shooting themselves in the foot that way.
Telling insipid weenie Dems that they better pick up their game or we'll find someone who will, should not be off the table simply because Reps employ it. Thats just good politics that strengthens your party.
Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself.
They won't because republicans even if they form a dictatorship are less a threat to their interests and goals than the alternative.
More like they can't because everybody shits on them online so they don't get enough votes to do anything.
No democrats don't not fight against rising authoritarianism because people criticize them for supporting genocide and imperialism that's a deluded take.
If people supported dems wholeheartedly, if people had gone out and voted dem, then the fascism wouldn't be happening. That's reality.
If people supported dems wholeheartedly
Your expectations are unreasonable. Not everyone will follow democrats as they play arms broker for a genocide, no matter how entitled you feel to their unconditional support.
Dictators deserve death.
People should not be afraid of the government, government should be afraid of the people.
As the Founding Fathers intended. That's why they gave us the 2nd Amendment. Dems need to embrace it as much as the Reps do.
best they can do is a mild chastizing
Please don't pawn this off to "democrats", some vague entity not connected to yourselves. It's each and every resident's duty to resist and fight back. Some politicians can't do anything when operating within the laws the fascists explicitly skirt.
We should have been able to count on the Democratic party for leadership, but most have run from their responsibilty, so we are on our own. We need to show them how determined we are to save our Democracy, and perhaps it will inspire them to grow a spine.
We as citizens need to use our second amendment. It was created for this.
Democrats will do nothing like they always do
We could try voting in more than 50 DNC senators for the first time in over a decade.
It was a sufficient majority to do everything democrats said they wanted to do. Instead of using it, they got in their own way and broke their promises, secure in the knowledge that they have people like you to make excuses for them.
Interesting, I'd never seen that spelling of "a fucking firing squad".
As long as it's public, whatever floats your boat.
The fascists need to be scared. It's okay to show them why in the middle of times square.
It's Congress though, so "Circular Firing Squad". :)
What for just to drill him then give him a pass.
If that's what happens then so be it, but it's still worth doing for the sake of doing.
Also it would highlight the complicity of others so i think the value is still there....even if/when they give him a pass
It's going to be fun watching all of these traitors stand trials for their crimes.
I can see progressives and muslims eventually hauled before a "court", but dems or republicans? hard to imagine.
Very cute fantasy of yours. Will never happen.
Maybe someday we'll have politicians face consequences for their actions, but it's not gonna happen.
Trump was found guilty of several crimes and still got to run for office. Dozens of senators are doing on obvious insider trading and don't get a tap on the wrist.
I hope it gets to that point
We can dream, friend. We can dream.
The DNC needs to go, it isn't reformable
This is true of both parties, and our two party system.
well we can start with our own party.
They do. Will they? Nope.
There is no logic in threatening prosecution for attempting a dictatorship.
Those who attempt try to succeed. There is no prosecution in a successful dictatorship.
Democrats doing literally anything
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you can't use rule of law to stop rule of man
that just doesn't work; and when it fails one ends up with some version of the plot from Seven Against Thebes
To employ the crude vernacular, no Democrat has the requisite reproductive organs necessary to solve MAGA, either testicles or ovaries.
what are boobs if not balls for the chest? chesticles if you will, and what are balls, if not the small wrickly dangly boobs between your legs.
it does not matter, as dems have neither :) (i wanted to be a part of ur silliness I apologize in advance)
Boobs are the milk of human kindness. Testicles are the seeds of evil.
I don't really like this way of thinking. Women are just people, as are men. A matriarchy isn't preferable to a patchriarchy.
I wasn't really making a statement about the sexes. Milk of human kindness is a Macbeth reference, but also in Fallout 4 from the supermutant Strong. He misunderstands the Macbeth quote and wants to find the milk of human kindness because he thinks it is what makes humans powerful.
The seeds of evil, I was speaking of humanity. It is literally the seed, and it produces both men and women.
i mean I'd still drink both
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They will not.
Sadly Democrats couldn't make Republicans fear a Lovecraftian Horror.
So, we should summon a Lovecraftian Horror?
I said this years ago after J6: if liberals wanted to maintain liberal democracy, they had to literally hang Trump after J6 and the false electors scheme. Instead he faced 0 consequences, so he (and the fascists around him) decided they could just keep trying different coup strategies until they found the one that works. Liberals let them iteratively test coup strategies.
I have said it before but republicans need to become irrelevant to the point they change the party name again.
Well, unless the Dem voters quit expecting their reps to do something about the situation, it's not gonna change.
Fund wfh, Dems are pathetic and compromised.
Make sure to buy guns
By shifting to the right apparently
To do this successfully, Democrats would have to abandon the corrupting influence of corporate PAC donations and actually work towards improving the material living conditions of the working class. Not just say some of the right things on the campaign trial, but actually fight for and pass real legislation.
I’m sorry, but the current elected officials simply aren’t going to do that. We have to replace them first to have any hope, and it’s going to take time to do so unfortunately.
Well so far they've been holding signs in congress... that's a very effective way in fact I remember the first pustch attempted by Hitler was entirely halted by mild mannered people holding signs.
We all do, not just those in the office
Especially since those in office don't seem particularly interested.
Attempting?
Fear the Consequences? Have they run that Idea by DNC Leadership? Because the LAST Thing they would WANT to do is HURT Republican Voters FEEWINGS NO MATTER THE COST!
I think that you guys need to get over your fear of introducing another political party, so that the Democrats can be made to fear the consequences of being a bunch of animated fucking corpses that are too busy maintaining the status quo to listen to their voters or show any signs of actual life.
I'm sure a pink shirt and a flag will do the trick!
Pretty sure they only need to cash their AIPAC/lobbying checks.
And if Demoocrats won't, then the general population will need to do it.
It's us.
Yeah! Let's put Democrats in charge so they can do that!
So they'll do something then unlike last time????
There haven't been 60 dems in the senate since 1979
There haven't been 50 dems since 2013
Starting living in this decade maybe
The President has historically had wide latitude to act in times of emergency. The instigator of the insurrection should've been in Gitmo on January 21, 2021.
Sure, call me extremist, but look at where we are now. I'm fucking right. But, barring the correct action, Biden could've followed the moderate, decorous course of launching the prosecution that day. But no, it took TWO. GOD. DAMN. YEARS.
I'm so done with Democrat excuses.
I think, in principle, the president persecuting his predecessor and current political rival is bad. Much simpler a solution is to not disrupt his criminal investigation by electing him president, but instead we're a country of assholes who can't even show up to the polls to keep him out.
Would it be worse than a fascist dictatorship?
You're asking if voting for Harris would have been worse than a fascist dictatorship?
Really? This is an example why I'm done with Democrats.
The courts were responsible. Biden already expressed disappointment in the AG for being slow. This should never have been Biden's job to do, and it is our collective fault that he became president absolving himself of crimes.
There haven’t been 60 dems in the senate since 1979
There haven’t been 50 dems since 2013
You're ignoring independents who caucus and vote with the dems. Your numbers are misleading on purpose. You're just making excuses for a party that opposes progressives and not republicans.
Biden and doj did so much to stop trump while Biden was in office...
Starting living in this decade maybe
My man they're currently trying to be like Reagan republicans
Lol k
When there's an actual armed resistance lemme know. That's the only way things will change.
Use the fearrrrr
Yes, the clown voters be clowning but yeah the dems have to do something
Imagine being expected to do your job.
SOMEHOW
Seeing the negative and know-it-all comments on this thread is depressing. Maybe some of you need to just go back to pondering which Linux distribution to use and leave the hopium posts for the optimists.
They all work for the same money. It's only the illusion of choice we're allowed to see.
Poor you
Bit what they "want" is a dictatorship with their colors.
