GaribaldeeSo did they just download the US Census and start from there?
When pretty much everybody is on the list, it's more conspicuous to not be on it.
They want a list because there’s a zero percent chance that they’ll successfully manipulate public opinion through social media.
“Hello fellow capitalists! Ready for a new day of supporting free enterprise by simply caring for ourselves?” #nevergonnafuckinhappen
fuck insurance companies. i hope more CEOs get gunned down in the streets.
Inshallah
You can't put us all on the little list
You can't put us all on the little list by definition, because then it would be the big list.
Human person #6382808222 has been identified. Added note: Dislikes being exploited.
A list that includes everyone is useless from a data analysis point of view.
This is not about data analysis. This is about justifying oppression. And if it comes to "we have found you all to be dangerous" the conclusion is "we need to oppress you all"
Wait, how? Because I only know about statistics and you usually want a comprehensive list to work with either partially or in bulk.
I think the point of big data is to collect enough information to extrapolate other qualities about whatever you want to know, so if everyone is on the list then you have no patterns to go off of besides "on Earth" or "in X country".
Side comment: if 99% of people were on the list, the the govt could just oppress everyone with a 99% accuracy rate. It's entirely possibly they could pick a proportion drastically lower than 99%
Everyone is on the list now, some are just higher up than others.
Ohh, I wonder what my rank is. I can get very competitive. 😈
Area 51 : Naruto run means they can't catch us all :: List of people that dislike insurance companies : Knowing that gov't jobs are gonna be cut to the bone for crypto scams and GOP pocket lining means they can't monitor us all
So, they're finally admitting that they're monitoring all of us.
What the fuck... Really? Holy shit and what the actual fuck. As example ever heard about Snowden? Chelsea Manning? Assange? Unbelievable wtf
keyword "admitting"...
Facts should no longer be admitted or confirmed, which is why they are facts. It would have been different if, for example, some disinformation campaigns had been launched afterwards in an attempt to conceal the facts. So it was accepted, but attempts were made to shift the focus onto the "traitors to the country"... with success... sad that Americans who care about Americans are being hunted by Americans globally.
They also admitted it much earlier, but without the words that actions conveyed instead.
That's not the meaning of the word.
It has been confirmed and proven by the facts - nothing more needs to be admitted. Apart from that... James Clapper has already been forgotten. Who made fun of it and what else was going on.... Nothing more had to be admitted.
But they did. So you can stop trying to justify you not understanding the difference in what those words mean.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/10/nsa-spying-scandal-what-we-have-learned
"President Barack Obama described the programmes as vital to keeping Americans safe and said the US was "going to have to make some choices between balancing privacy and security to protect against terror". The NSA access was enabled by changes to US surveillance law introduced under President George Bush and renewed under Obama in December 2012."
We just forget anything right?
People forgot about Snowden after a month, it's been 12 years already, let it come back to the public consciousness
Health Insurance companies are parasites who only exist to cause people misery in exchange for profit so... everyone?
Imagine if government resources were spent on applying antitrust laws to stop this abusive situation that literally kills people and ruins lives instead.
so, like most people who have ever had to attempt to use it combined with those who could only hope to afford it? thats prolly a long list.
Nah, only those who dare to speak out.
I think it's probably closer to 99%. Basically, anyone who isn't a high-level executive in the health insurance industry.
30% is minimal support, I don't think you can expect more than 70%.
Hi, FBI agent! How are you doing today?
"Do you have the faintest idea of how little that narrows this down?"
The more people that express negative sentiment the harder it will be for them to go after people. It's your first amendment right, use it. Don't comply in advance.
And have been since 2002 at the latest
Room 641A is a known fact.
I hope more die.
I don't know if I would trust an American who doesn't have a negative view of the health insurance industry
So they are monitoring basically everyone.
Openly since the Patriot Act
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The beatings will continue until the morale improves.
But anyway don't download RedNote the Chinese censorship is just so terrible...
(Oh he's super popular on that app btw lmao)
Only fools think real Chinese care about him or even know who he is.
I'd imagine that some people, when given a choice between a service that shares your data with the Chinese government versus one that shares your data with the US government, well, the Chinese government can't arrest you for bullshit reasons on US soil. The US government can.
Bro they've been making thirst traps of Luigi on Douyin and XHS since his mugshots came out. You can literally Google "Luigi Mangione Douyin" and see all the results. Get out of your bubble.
What why lmao
So pretty much everyone.
Exactly. We already knew that.
They don't. I've met one person since that useless human got deleted that couldn't understand why everyone was unsympathetic toward him. The person was very wealthy and has no understanding of how things are for the majority of people in the US. These people are really a lot like the french nobles before the french revolution.
And there are also tons of people who take the sorta-centrist view that "no matter how bad the corporation's acts, killing its ceo is wrong!!!!!!!" and only view using a gun against a black (now mexican/muslim bubba fetishes as well) 'robber' as valid self defense.
Sure but this person wasn't one of them. She was born into a wealthy family and has never wanted. for anything. There are plenty of these types around who would probably end themselves if they ever lost it all.
I wasn't contradicting you or trying to say that my assertion was the correct one about your example, just adding on to how many different ways we are deviating from the "so pretty much everyone" idea. I probably should have put in there how they don't even look at the corporation's acts as bad, justifying it in the typical 'money is all that matters' view commonly held, and that's what truly guides their statements about killing of ceos.
Oh, okay.
UHC just sent me a survey. I was honest. I'm on a list now!!!
If you got the survey you were already on the list.
You can monitor this dick.
"We already have. And there is literally 'Nothing to see here.' "
Ouch
Believe me, if you've got a dick worth monitoring they are already monitoring it
Reminds me of this classic Crudbump song
Cool to see another Drew fan in the wild.
Obligatory Garbage Brain University link.
Thanks. That was fantastic.
Monitoring all nurses, got it.
Never forget.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
But so many people have.
The health insurance industry needs to be changed significantly as it neither makes care cheaper, more accessible or more available.
Insurance in general is fucked. Home insurance just broke in Florida and now California.
But it makes money
Takes money.
Is there such a thing as an insurance co-op? If not, can that be a thing?
religious people tried that, ended up as bad as you'd think lol
So then let's try it but not make it religious
Monitor me all you want. Monitor me while you suck my balls.
What are you going to do about it? Nothing.
You think the trump regime is going to do nothing with a list of people who are opposed to the crimes of the rich?
Violent autocrats love lists of people to persecute and kill. That's been a hallmark of trump style regimes since at least sulla in the roman republic.
I think trump has some pretty dark plans but infighting and a focus on drama will derail a lot of them like it did last time. True authoritarianism is too complex for his cabinet to pull off.
That's a very optimistic position.
I think it overestimates the competence of fascists past and underestimates people like Leonard Leo who orchestrated the fascist take over of the courts and has publicly committed to doing the same to every major industry and institution.
Either way we'll find out I guess.
Far more scary than Trump would be a president with the same ideas he espouses but who actually is a true believer (rather than somebody who just says what he thinks people want to hear), competent and persistent in taking his promises all the way (instead of a flip-flopper like Trump).
It's the reason why the Democrat Party going even more to the Right is dangerous: it's keeps the Republicans in Fascist territory and sooner or later they'll produce America's very own Hitler rather than "just" Trump.
Yup. Mike Johnson and guys like him scare the fuck out of me. With JD 'Couchfucker' Vance as their catspaw, they are capable of organized evil.
Everyone had a good laugh about the porn surveillance with his son using Covenant Eyes. Few caught that the program is used by true believing evangelical fundamentalists and what it actually means. At this point, I'm more worried about what comes after Chump.
I'm not an American or live in the US but I did live in the UK (which is even more into civil society surveillance than the US) and as I come from a country which was once a dictatorship complete with a secret police and political prisioners, I've always been wary of surveillance because it's a lot easier for Democracy to be subverted (as became clear with the Snowden revelations) and even crumble (as we see right now all over the West) than people think, and even the most innocuous activities might put you in a list of enemies of the State (I'm pretty sure my membership of a Ecologist organisation and a small Leftwing party would more than suffice) so best avoid getting your activities tracked and recorded for all eternity in some database.
There is no such thing as a good bulk surveillance system, even if done with the best of intentions (itself something that is doubtful, given that what is actually done with those things is invariably hidden behind a cover of State Secret, so the watchers just watch themselves, a recipe for abuse which most politicians are educated enough to be aware of) would still run the risk of later being abused when people with not so good intentions got their hands on all that data of what people had done before recorded by the "good intentions" people.
To some level I agree but at the same time we shouldn’t dismiss the threat potential
Certainly not. We need to throw up roadblocks wherever we can.
The threshold is creeping anyway, may as well dip into accelerationism.
"let a few Into the castle and that will wake up the peasants so they join us on the walls."
That's how accelerationism sounds to me.
killing everyone who are opposed would mean decimating their source of income, the working class. you know they can't do it to all of us.. so we better make sure they know we know that
I have a negative view of health insurance companies. In fact, I have a negative view of corporations, from the local mom-&-pops that underpay their employees and expect long hours, to Amazon. They all suck.
But people who create policies that cause immense loss of life (and cost and destruction) are really asking for ten-plus times the vengeance that actually comes their way.
I'm not interested in that vengeance since it won't solve the problem, but I don't begrudge those who suffer at their hands from wanting to kill them back.
Add me to the list plz. Thx.
We already know they’re spying on everyone in the country
21 minutes too late
An evil company was evil. A very understandable thing happened when evil people are killing Americans. Now I'm going to get put on a list for liking a post.
It's like you don't have to do anything besides exist and you get put on a list. I'm sure this won't be used by the new administration to silence dissent.
Well... You also have to have good morals, and worst of all, care just a little. Can't have that.
The US is already 90% towards fascism.
We're gonna need a bigger surveillance apparatus
Leaked image of their new detection system:
It puts out a green ball whenever someone has unkind thoughts about health insurance companies
Add in something linking the balls, and you have an infinite anal bead producer! Production will be through the ~~sphincter~~roof!
That's fun. It does nothing to stop the near-daily in-person conversations with coworkers, friends, and family about this one topic that unites us all. So long as we're beholden to this health insurance system that screws us over at our most vulnerable of times, those conversations aren't going to stop.
The US healthcare system is a massive fucking dumpster fire. There, I typed it.
Hi, I guess?
No shit, the NSA was already monitoring everybody to begin with.
And they're still monitoring everyone. Everyone hates their healthcare. The "List" is just everyone.
That's not news, we knew the NSA was spying on every American a decade ago.
I don't know if it says anything that the caption says "social media posts" but 3 of them are photos of IRL signs/banners, and the other one is an illustration of a sign. And there is no surrounding context, like 9 trillion likes or anything included. If I was writing this report I would have chosen different images to make my point.
But 2 things from that same document, are they accurate?
During his arrest, authorities discovered Mangione was in possession of a three-page handwritten claim of responsibility. In the writings, he made several references to a "parasitic" healthcare system filled with "corruption and greed".
It was three pages?? Were they very small pages or is there more? The "manifesto" that was posted all over the place is very short, not 3 pages.
During the course of the investigation, law enforcement discovered "delay", "deny", and "depose" written in permanent marker on the bullet casings used in the shooting.
It was written in marker? I assumed you'd have to paint it or something. How big are bullets? I just used a fine point Sharpie to write "depose" as small as I can and it isn't legible below about 1 1/8" x 3/8" on a flat piece of paper. Wouldn't is rub off while being shot out of the gun?
Marker seems plausible. The casing, which is what it was written on, isn't fired through the barrel. It's ejected after, usually out the side. As far as size, writing 'depose' on say a 9mm cartridge seems pretty small, but not impossible, you could do it. Challenging, but not impossible. The casing is about .75" long and .4-ish inches diameter, and usually steel or brass, to give you an idea.
Maybe you could write it on a diagonal or something. Like spiraling around the outside. Instead of in a straight line like I was thinking.
It was three pages?? Were they very small pages or is there more? The "manifesto" that was posted all over the place is very short, not 3 pages.
I’m sure we haven’t seen the whole thing. Why would they want to give us more than we “needed”? We were already cheering for him.
Wasn't it supposedly handwritten? That could easily take enough space to fill two pages and at least part of a third, depending on penmanship
They can't monitor everyone. With AI they think they can, that's our biggest advantage
AI is pretty good at identifying anything suspicious.
But AI can't monitor analogue very well.
I mean, they should be monitoring me because I want to see them toppled and replaced with a democracy, not just because I like seeing rich assholes get assassinated.
If the list includes everyone, what good is the list?
Something something monitor deez nuts.
Sooooo, most people.
Really the people should be monitoring insurance industry executives more often.
For safety.
So literally fucking everyone
Go ahead fuckers. If I didn’t have so much to lose I’d go take out one of those fucks myself
Petrol bomb their houses? Harder to trace that and a lower priority than murder
It's a real conundrum for those of us who don't have much to lose.
The desperation to intimidate people is palpable. This won't work and the 1% will turn to dividing the people along racial and/or national lines.
What can I say, if it works it works.
Of course they are.
Addressing the problem with increased surveillance and beefed up security for executives is not addressing the problem. It's exacerbating it.
So they're monitoring everyone? Nothing new, they have been doing so illegally for decades. If only someone could inspire the masses to resist elite authoritarianism... Mario?
You can try and suppress a revolution, but it will only make it better. And more brutal.
Except for all of those other times when the revolts were successfully suppressed....
Lol... I mean seriously dude?
That seems unlikely to me tbh, even an inept revolution can be dangerous to a government, and that would require a level of government control over media and long term planning that would be nigh impossible to use without the common person being somewhat aware of it. Id suspect it's more something like celebrating revolutionaries being part of the US's "founding myth" so to speak, and a lot of movies being made here. Having your heroes be rebels is an easy way to tell the audience theyre "the good guys" in such a culture.
I meant that it just comes back later.
Big job.
Lol aren't like a solid 3rd of Zach Star's comedy channel videos about insurance?
I think he mentioned he didn't get work coverage so he made one for each kind to joke about gow much of a scam it all is.
I would like to be on your list
Everyone post their favorite bounty posters!!
I wish the Health Insurance companies a fourth layer of hell.
So what'll this be called, The Health Scare? Ref. The Lavender Scare and all other scares there's been.
It was to be expected but I didn't think it would be public this soon
We already knew they were monitoring everyone, this article is redundant.
Average redditor comment: why did you post this article? obviously! this article is redundant.
You can choose to not be like this, no one is forcing you to be like this.
You can simply not comment if you don't have anything that adds to the conversation to say, but upvotes to the left kind person.
Imagine responding to an average redditor comment. Cringe.
the misery will continue until tolerance and acceptance is achieved
The fun part will be when Trump rips apart the alphabet soup intelligence apparatus and displaces much of the senior leadership. Those guys have spent decades building webs of deep and strong connections, and I would be 0% shocked if those guys were able to successfully mount an insurgency against the Trump presidency, and they'll likely take with them the list of dissidents and malcontents to contact.
Ok Tom Clancy
Idk, I just think it'd be peak comedy if, after sponsoring right wing movements around the world for seventy years, CIA leadership was forced into leading a left-wing counter revolution here at home
The Alphabet Boys have dirt on everyone because they have everything. They probably have shit on trump putin doesn't. They could end trump whenever they want. But they don't, because they want what is coming.
They tire of the shadows, and want their own KGB man to lead the nation like in Russia, like the good old days with George H. W. Bush. No, that person is not trump.
Fair
You know, anyone making negative comments… The bees go get 'em.
So, everyone who isn't a C level at an insurance company?
You're not useless.
This too will pass.
Thanks for the heads up IQ nilly.
Stupid LIBERALS! Of COURSE the Government Monitors Threats to Lawmakers!
Perhaps let's not throw around ableist slurs
Might I suggest "Differently Gifted" which is not only very funny on it's own, but at the same time it patronizes the person you were talking about in a satisfyingly disrespectful manner.
The dipshits that are like “free Luigi” and supporting murdering someone are the reason for stupid stuff like this.
Zero posting history. Shocker.
And?
I love how you all will say any red herring shit to avoid the actual argument.
This place is worse than Reddit.
ceo killed The people don't mind goverment casts ''I'm watching you.'' . . . "This is the people's fault...''
There is no argument from any sane person that the CEO directly killed people. That would be a stupid argument.
The argument could be made that he participated in indirectly killing them, which is a fruitless one to make and would likewise lack any actionable foundation.
Do cops at least rinse the viscera off of their boots first? Or is that part of the licking experience?
Show me where I’m boot licking law enforcement, dipshit.
Go ahead.
I’ll wait.
You’re the 2nd or 3rd fuckwit that has posted that and it has no bearing within the current context.
God dayum you are dumb.
🥾👅
I'm glad hes dead and I hope he burns in hell!
Aw, I almost got it right.
You’re so brave/edgy.
I bet you change so many lives with your Twitter activism.
