The idealists who make up all these hypotheticals about tyrannicide never stop to do the same for just average fascists. I mean, they shouldn't, but it's weird that they do it for a "big man of history". I bet they imagine shooting like twenty nazis to get to Hitler and then stop in their fantasy like: "But he seems so real and important, unlike those NPCs earlier." Many games and movies rely on this exact thinking in their audience to work out emotionally.

Seems like the blue button would kill him too and replace him with an entirely new person.

Oh well if Hitler regrets doing all the bad stuff... No. I believe in retributive justice. Regret without rectification is just whitewashing the status quo, and there is absolutely nothing that could be done to rectify what he has done. Death.

Im choosing to interpret the blue button as gulag. Im OK with that. But yea same energy as if you'd kill Hitler at birth ww2 wouldn't happen...

blue button reminds me of that manga trope where the big bad is sealed in a small, feminine body and brainwashed to be the MC's girlfriend. The red button respects Hitler's consent.

At the TAIL END of World War 2? Who gives a fuck really? Either way someone kills him in that bunker and the war powers will probably say he killed himself anyway. No matter how much magical pardoning the blue button does, it would have to warp the entire world significantly for Hitler to live.

If it was the middle of WW2, then obviously the blue button - He'd be a practically useful agent who could speed up the fall of the Reich.

blue button does too many things. there is no world more dystopian than one where hitler of all nazis was pardoned.

If the blue button worked, he would let himself be captured by the Red Army, confess to everything he did, publicly denounce all his views and admit his total and utter failure as a leader. Then he'd be sentenced to death and he'd accept the verdict.

This, in turn, would just mean that all remaining nazis start simping for Rudolf Hess or some other unrepentend fascist trying to be more Hitler than Hitler. For some nazi ultras, that was already literally what happened, they glaze Hess because he didn't kill himself and never showed remorse. They do a pathetic little march to his grave every year solely because of that. You cannot fix fascism by killing or reforming one guy, no matter how much the nazis themselves believe in great man theory. If their great man lets them down, they will find a way to cope. They are nazis, disavowing reality in favor of a mythology that justifies all of their crimes and makes them feel less pathetic is the one thing these nihilist fucks believe in.

So i'd press the red button, at least then i get to be the girl who killed Hitler. The actually important question is where to find the button that makes Stalin not stop at Berlin, but that would require the US not to have nukes. Alternative history is kinda pointless tbh.

Seems both worse than letting Hitler blow his brain out.

I would really like to see what the original meme maker's idea of 'atoning' for the second world war and its associated genocides looks like. There's no number of charity meals distributed, or rocks broken on a chain gang that makes up for 70+ million dead

Press the blue button very slightly so it only does the last sentence, then recruit them all to make missiles to fight our real enemy: the COMMIES.

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I actually feel like the way it happened irl was better than either of these. Shooting himself in a hole in the ground like the pathetic little man he was, while soviet tanks rolled overhead.

I know the red-blue button debate and honestly it mainly seems like a sense of framing. Another way to put the dilemma would be

Everyone in the world is given a choice between pressing a red button and a blue button. Everyone in the world makes their own choice and presses one of the two buttons.
Blue button: You Live.
Red button: You live. If more than 50% of the population presses the red button, then everyone who pressed the blue button dies.

The circumstances are exactly the same, the framing has changed. I don't have a twitter so I won't make that meme and even if I had I wouldn't because I know I'd end up in several discussions with ignoramuses about how it's the same.

Blue button. I'll "pardon" him of all his crime if it keeps him from offing himself for long enough to fall into the hands of the Red Army. I guess we'll see how heavy a liberal button manufacturer's pardon weighs in a Soviet tribunal.

"what if I was Hitler but I became I started fighting on the side of Goku"

Using "would you kill or rehabilitate Hitler" as the hypothetical needlessly derails what could have been interesting. But honestly the whole premise feels like I'm confronting a one of the main villains in a 15 year old choices and consequences RPG, goofy

Sure, I'd press the "turn him into a good person" button, but that button doesn't exist, it never has and never will.

I mean, yeah, imagine if you could just "turn people good" in an instant. That's the ideal solution. We wouldn't even be in this mess. Just solve capitalism lmao. "God, what the fuck have I been doing? All this wealth, from other people's labor?? No, no, hit me. I deserve it."

I choose purple

Im picking which ever ends in the complete destruction of the German State nerd

The lib that cooked up this hypothetical probably meant atonement like in a "oh he's nice and so sad and docile now ahaha" kinda way but in reality it would probably involve him trying to hand Germany to the communists and helping them hunt down every last nazi.

That being said, if killing him with a magic button fucks up operation paperclip because none of the nazis want to be publicly known about so they don't get button-killed that could do some real good too.

That one's complicated. I feel like letting him live would just result in him being killed anyways and kinda nullify the benefits.

Figuring out how to use this hypothetical to fuck over nazism as a whole is wayyyyy more interesting than the lame-ass moralizing it was originally doing.

It's telling that they believe pardoning Hitler would guarantee he survives.

As we all know, no one is allowed to be mad at you anymore if the government pardons you.

This will also pardon him of all his previous wrongdoings

Aaaaaannnd I'm out, red button it is

blue

I press the blue button because Hitler will proceed to kill himself not out of guilt but out of a newly found moral conviction that justice will only be served with his death.

Present Stalin himself with the magical button technology that can kill reactionaries and use my isekai cheat skill of having more Mario Party button mashing experience than anyone else on Earth in 1945 to ensure world communism

I ignore the buttons

rip and tear

i'd make a graham platner joke but he's unrepentant

Call me nutty but I feel like when you oversee the genocide of 6 million people and kick off a world war, there's no amount of atonement.

Red, sorry he doesn't get to atone. He does not deserve that privilege

My opinion is that i like the original trilogy too but its not real life dude

Can I push the blue one and then make it slow and painful instead of instant? No reason those various acts need to actually get carried out.

Can I just make it slow and painful without pushing either?